Innovate Motorsports Twin Screw Supercharger Kit for FR-S/BRZ

[Outlawstar98]

Originally Posted by whtchocla7e

Lolwut?

PA follows the Cali emission standards..

In PA you need to pass Inspection and Emissions. Which as long as you dont have a CEL you will pass Emissions basically. Even If I have a CEL I do have friends but I will also have the BRZ as mostly a show and track car. So In the end CARB may be good for some but useless for me. If PA followed that my car will be in biggggg trouble.

[Jeff86]

Done both SC and turbo on the same car. Turbo systems are more complex and introduce additional potential points of failure. It doesn't get simpler than a blower and a belt and simple is reliable. Had to go turbo to make the big power (400+whp). I don't care about that on the 86, so high hopes for the twin screw!

[nonicname]

I think I'm leaningtowards the twin screw SC for these reasons:
-retains close to NA throttle response
-most affordable option available
-simplicty of parts and installation= $saving when installed
-the sound of these SC is simply amazing
-should give torque figure where its needed the most.
-less heat introduced to the engine vs turbo.

on the other hand:
-I don't trust the reliability of the belts, those thing are always loosening.
-AVO's reputation for making reliable turbos is amazing.

I trust AVO because I see what they are doing to make sure their kit works but these guys NEVER give updates so I have trust issues with that.

[soros151]

Well.... I just read 31 pages... so I guess I'll be waiting for some dyno numbers.

[pixel67]

Originally Posted by nonicname

I trust AVO because I see what they are doing to make sure their kit works but these guys NEVER give updates so I have trust issues with that.

I don't distrust either solely based on their development practices and how much information/misinformation is leaked to the public. Leaking info doesn't have anything to do with building a quality product and supporting said product. CARB certification is HUGE IMHO and a very major step in establishing trust for a product and company, even if it doesn't apply to the state you live in. For me, that speaks louder than forum fodder...

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by pixel67

I don't distrust either solely based on their development practices and how much information/misinformation is leaked to the public. Leaking info doesn't have anything to do with building a quality product and supporting said product. CARB certification is HUGE IMHO and a very major step in establishing trust for a product and company, even if it doesn't apply to the state you live in. For me, that speaks louder than forum fodder...

Not to thread jack and not trying to change your point of view but just for information the trust put into AVO is not based on whatever they have done in this forum, its based on their years of experience turbocharging cars (more importantly Boxer motors) and their proven reputation for reliability builds going 200K+ miles.

/thread jack

[pixel67]

That was my point. Reputations are built, not leaked. Hype while a product is being built is just that... Hype. I agree it's fun to read but it doesn't make me trust one more than the other.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by pixel67

That was my point. Reputations are built, not leaked. Hype while a product is being built is just that... Hype. I agree it's fun to read but it doesn't make me trust one more than the other.

I'm sorry man, I misread your post. As I read it again now I understand your point and I agree.

[pixel67]

It's all good. . Wish we could fast forward a year and see how all these FI setups are withstanding the test of time.

[swift996]

Originally Posted by nonicname

I think I'm leaningtowards the twin screw SC for these reasons:
-retains close to NA throttle response
-most affordable option available
-simplicty of parts and installation= $saving when installed
-the sound of these SC is simply amazing
-should give torque figure where its needed the most.
-less heat introduced to the engine vs turbo.

on the other hand:
-I don't trust the reliability of the belts, those thing are always loosening.
-AVO's reputation for making reliable turbos is amazing.

I trust AVO because I see what they are doing to make sure their kit works but these guys NEVER give updates so I have trust issues with that.

-retains close to NA throttle response
-simplicty of parts and installation

^ The reasons I'm leaning towards this set-up. Although the AVO kit is tempting too.

[Noob4Life]

Originally Posted by pixel67

It's all good. . Wish we could fast forward a year and see how all these FI setups are withstanding the test of time.

A year is nothing if im going to shell out for a kit I want it to last YEARS.

I have a problem with the updates as well, there should at minimum be a video and/or a dyno up by now.

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[Supermassive]

Originally Posted by Noob4Life

A year is nothing if im going to shell out for a kit I want it to last YEARS.

I have a problem with the updates as well, there should at minimum be a video and/or a dyno up by now.

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Waiting for more info in this thread is like the wait for Duke Nukem 3D...for those who know how that was...let's just hope this isn't as disappointing!

[cruzinbill]

Originally Posted by Supermassive

Waiting for more info in this thread is like the wait for Duke Nukem 3D...for those who know how that was...let's just hope this isn't as disappointing!

ok, i doubt this will take 15 years lol..... vaporware or not Ill be waiting for a roots SC.

Oh, and I thought dukenukem forever was actually pretty good after the wait. not awesome but better than diablo 3.

Another note, they had said before there would be nothing until end of jan-feb. so until it passes the time they said ill keep the hope up.

[Exhaust]

I want the power level!!!