Stance Vs Kw3 vs Fortune Autos?

[Grimlock]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

And yeah, the KW's are great. We're working on our RCE Tarmac 2's, which are built by KW but we've still got some work to do.

- Andrew

Do you guy have a Tarmac 2 thread around here somewhere? I'm highly interested in them. I'm debating between Tarmac 2's and Yellow springs.

[brianlo622]

Originally Posted by koyv90

Its for a daily driver with some spirited driving(cornering, Auto x) and drifting fun! I don't think price will be a problem. So Sounds like Kw3s or FA. I thought Camber plates are important for alignment and gives you more of a range to control when lowering your car?

I am not sure why you keep on bringing Fortune Auto back

I am also cross shopping coilovers at the moment and I thought I'd share some of the brands I am considering.

RSR i-coilovers: These are roughly $1800 to $2000, price range wise they are just a tad below the KWs.

Eibach Multi Pro R1: They will be roughly $1600, monotube design

Eibach Multi Pro R2: About $2000 to $2200, external resevoir, too much adjustability IMO.

If price is TRULY not a concern like you were saying, I would opt for the Ohlins which are rumored to be between $3500 to $4000.

All the coilovers that I mentioned above do not "cater" to the "HELLAFLUSH" crowd. They are performance oriented, unlike some of the brands that you have mentioned who's primary concern is flushness and lowness.

Brian

[cnk]

Another option that seems appealing right now are the GC coilovers. It will be interesting to see how they stack up against the KW's as they do offer a lot of bang for your buck seeing as they come with camber plates and a front strut bar as well.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

We were discussing rates in another thread, i know the KW is around 6k/7k will the Tarmac's be a little stiffer?

We'll start at 7k/7k but have options on spring rate.

Originally Posted by Grimlock

Do you guy have a Tarmac 2 thread around here somewhere? I'm highly interested in them. I'm debating between Tarmac 2's and Yellow springs.

No thread just yet. We want to have a better idea on ETA first.

- Andrew

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by koyv90

I thought Camber plates are important for alignment and gives you more of a range to control when lowering your car?

With KW's and stock tophats you can still get a lot of camber. You simply adjust at the lower mount instead of the tophat. Camber plates will let you adjust in a ton of camber (if you want it) and are an all-metal design, which of course can have some drawbacks to the OEM rubber mounts on the street in terms of noise and harshness.

A good quality camber plate is a very good addition for a car that sees the track or autocrosses but isn't a necessity for a street car. There are positives and negatives.

- Andrew

[xwd]

Like someone else mentioned, I wouldn't discount the Ground Control setup which uses Koni inserts in the front and a Koni shock in the back. They also sell them with camber plates.

[SubieNate]

If the GC's can be specced with an 8011 (I think that's it) level damper like the Zyzzx coilovers that were available a while back for the Impreza that'd be a pretty killer combo.

I would love for a professional driver to take cars out and give input on the strengths and weaknesses of the various systems.

KW, AST, Ohlins and the GC setup are at the top of my list.

Nathan

[jumbaco]

Originally Posted by SubieNate

From what I've read, I'd put the FA's over STANCE any day. STANCE just seems like an expensive BC to me.

I think KW's are in a different league than either of those though.

I'm assuming that most of what you've read was from the internet. And the internet is not exactly a reliable source of information.

[jamal]

You basically have two choices when it comes to coilovers. R&D and good damping, or a bunch of "features."

So would you rather have double ride height adjustability, camber plates, and "32-way" adjustment, or good parts that are going to perform and ride well and last for years without issue.

[RRnold]

I think the ultimate question is what do you plan to do with your car and how much you are willing to spend.

I was actually pinging folks here for coilovers for my Supra. Though 2K for some KW V3's seems fair, I can't justify it since I won't be tracking my Supra.

But if you want an entry level coilover that won't break your wallet, I would suggest talking to these guys. Ain't nothing wrong with the lower tier stuff if you have good valving and Swift springs.

http://rallyracingsuspension.com/page1.html

An example of suspension rankings would be something like this.

Higher tier
-Ohlins
-JRZ
-Moton

Mid
-KW VW
-HKS Hipermax
-Cusco

Lower tier
-Megan
-BC
-K Sport
-Stance
-Fortune Auto

[Foobar]

Originally Posted by jumbaco

I'm assuming that most of what you've read was from the internet. And the internet is not exactly a reliable source of information.

They can't put anything on the Internet that isn't true!

I'm a French model. Bonjour!

[JoeBoxer]

I'm still waiting to see the Bilstein PSS, the Eibach Street series is also an option I actually prefer to use factory top mounts so not having them isn't an issue for me.

[brianlo622]

Loved PSS9s on Audis and BMWs

[TylerLieberman]

KWs are the shit.

Stance is pretty damn good, but not as good as KWs-nor, would I expect them to be at half the price.

Fortune Auto IS shit. Dampening adjustability sucks, camber adjustability sucks. In short, they suck.