Stance Vs Kw3 vs Fortune Autos? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

koyv90 · 11-15-2012, 06:04 PM

anyone run these? Any opinions on which is better?

I've heard great things from both Stance and Fortune Auto's on S13's and S14's and Kw3 are sworn by a lot of members on here.

I doubt you could go wrong with either just wondering if anyone had any experience with multiple coil overs.

jumbaco · 11-15-2012, 06:13 PM

what's your budget? what are you looking for in a coilover?

Circuit Motorsports · 11-15-2012, 07:02 PM

Yeah these are all really different, it's not apples to apples.

Budget, car uses, goals for suspension - what kind of adjustability do you want/need?

ModBargains.com · 11-15-2012, 07:38 PM

I don't have experience driving on anything but the KW's, but I know for sure I've never had a complaint on KW V3's since I've been in the business... Considerably more performing then stock, that's given of course, but after the several spring kits I've been on, few different coilover sets as well, I landed at KW's, and stuck with it, and now it's the only coilover I'll put on my cars.

There's a ton of reasons why, but most guys will agree it's the most streetable kit with good performance (at least in my opinion).

Mr.Jay · 11-15-2012, 08:01 PM

KW V3s are deff the standout in that group but also for good reason considering they are much more than the others

gmookher · 11-15-2012, 08:31 PM

kw3>stance>fortune

Speed Element · 11-15-2012, 09:26 PM

KW V3 will most likely be the best street/track setup out of the 3.

Grip Ronin · 11-16-2012, 12:57 AM

my s14 has stance's. i dont like them and the front damper adjustments seized. not to mention there on the bottom of the damper. that just made adjustments a breeze when they did work -_-.
im planning on fortune autos for the frs

SubieNate · 11-16-2012, 03:50 AM

From what I've read, I'd put the FA's over STANCE any day. STANCE just seems like an expensive BC to me.

I think KW's are in a different league than either of those though.

dori. · 11-16-2012, 07:21 AM

If money is no object then yeag the V3's all the way. I just find it lame that they don't come with camber plates (or am I wrong)

deedz · 11-16-2012, 07:23 AM

definitely KW is the better choice versus fortune auto and Stance but at the same time they have about a 1000 dollar price difference, all depends on what youre looking for and how much you wanna spend

Racecomp Engineering · 11-16-2012, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dori.

If money is no object then yeag the V3's all the way. I just find it lame that they don't come with camber plates (or am I wrong)

They don't come with camber plates. Many (but not all) higher end european coilovers do not by default but may have the option.

Some choose to run the KWs with stock rubber tophats for comfort and longevity sake. Others don't want to run the often crappy camber plates that come with coilovers and want to run their own higher quality stuff (like Vorshlag plates which also add caster).

It would be nice if KW had the option for a camber plate pre-installed, but that is a service we offer at RCE. Assembled/torqued/adjusted with either stock top mounts or camber plates. Put them on and have fun.

And yeah, the KW's are great. We're working on our RCE Tarmac 2's, which are built by KW but we've still got some work to do.

- Andrew

JoeBoxer · 11-16-2012, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

They don't come with camber plates. Many (but not all) higher end european coilovers do not by default but may have the option.

Some choose to run the KWs with stock rubber tophats for comfort and longevity sake. Others don't want to run the often crappy camber plates that come with coilovers and want to run their own higher quality stuff (like Vorshlag plates which also add caster).

It would be nice if KW had the option for a camber plate pre-installed, but that is a service we offer at RCE. Assembled/torqued/adjusted with either stock top mounts or camber plates. Put them on and have fun.

And yeah, the KW's are great. We're working on our RCE Tarmac 2's, which are built by KW but we've still got some work to do.

- Andrew

We were discussing rates in another thread, i know the KW is around 6k/7k will the Tarmac's be a little stiffer?

koyv90 · 11-16-2012, 01:13 PM

Its for a daily driver with some spirited driving(cornering, Auto x) and drifting fun! I don't think price will be a problem. So Sounds like Kw3s or FA. I thought Camber plates are important for alignment and gives you more of a range to control when lowering your car?

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jumbaco Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FD Location: socal Posts: 176 Thanks: 31 Thanked 45 Times in 40 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	what's your budget? what are you looking for in a coilover?

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Circuit Motorsports Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 4,353 Thanks: 294 Thanked 495 Times in 259 Posts Mentioned: 35 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Yeah these are all really different, it's not apples to apples. Budget, car uses, goals for suspension - what kind of adjustability do you want/need?

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ModBargains.com Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: La Habra, CA Posts: 1,526 Thanks: 88 Thanked 416 Times in 274 Posts Mentioned: 63 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't have experience driving on anything but the KW's, but I know for sure I've never had a complaint on KW V3's since I've been in the business... Considerably more performing then stock, that's given of course, but after the several spring kits I've been on, few different coilover sets as well, I landed at KW's, and stuck with it, and now it's the only coilover I'll put on my cars. There's a ton of reasons why, but most guys will agree it's the most streetable kit with good performance (at least in my opinion).

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deedz Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Rocket Bunny FR-S Location: Irvine/Huntington Beach Orange County Posts: 739 Thanks: 157 Thanked 283 Times in 141 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	definitely KW is the better choice versus fortune auto and Stance but at the same time they have about a 1000 dollar price difference, all depends on what youre looking for and how much you wanna spend

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koyv90 Rocket Bunny FRS Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2013 Rocket Bunny FRS Location: United States Posts: 447 Thanks: 15 Thanked 29 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Its for a daily driver with some spirited driving(cornering, Auto x) and drifting fun! I don't think price will be a problem. So Sounds like Kw3s or FA. I thought Camber plates are important for alignment and gives you more of a range to control when lowering your car?

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