Floating feeling

[GC86]

Originally Posted by DriftEightSix

What do you recommend?

Try rotating the tires. It is simple, free, and you would be surprised how much of a pattern your tires could have adopted in a short while.

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[DEnd]

Originally Posted by d1ck

Unequal toe in on the front wheels isn't really important. It will just result in the steering wheel being off centre when driving in a straight line.

umm... no.

unequal toe also affects how a car behaves in a turn, and how it turns. Toe is not static throughout a vehicles steering arc.

Unequal toe also affects how a car behaves when it hits a bump. As these are cars with a steering rack, unequal toe results from the tie rods being unequal length, which will result in slightly different bump steer (yes the car has bump steer, and no, you can not ever get rid of it) characteristics. Though honestly the change will likely be so subtle not many would even notice it.

[Accathla]

I just posted in the BRZ section about the steering feeling loose and wondering if thats normal after some break-in. But reading your description it does sound like a floating feeling. The steering just moves so much easier then before. One week everything was great the next I was wondering what is with my steering.

I do a good 30-40minute drive on the turnpike every day to work. Straight line going 80 and constantly feel like i'am adjusting for movement the car is doing like it was windy outside pushing the car around a little. The resistance the steering had the last couple months just disappeared. Even shifting just casually was no issue before sometimes will pull the car to one side now.

I've owned the Car since August 1st and has 3200 miles on it. All stock car and just had to put air in the tires today my back driver side tire was very low while the rest were fine.

[DriftEightSix]

Originally Posted by Accathla

I just posted in the BRZ section about the steering feeling loose and wondering if thats normal after some break-in. But reading your description it does sound like a floating feeling. The steering just moves so much easier then before. One week everything was great the next I was wondering what is with my steering.

I do a good 30-40minute drive on the turnpike every day to work. Straight line going 80 and constantly feel like i'am adjusting for movement the car is doing like it was windy outside pushing the car around a little. The resistance the steering had the last couple months just disappeared. Even shifting just casually was no issue before sometimes will pull the car to one side now.

I've owned the Car since August 1st and has 3200 miles on it. All stock car and just had to put air in the tires today my back driver side tire was very low while the rest were fine.

This guy knows how I feel!!!

That is perfect to what it is like. :S

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

IMO everyone should get the OEM camber bolts and have the car aligned once they get the car. Makes a huge difference and those bolts are dirt cheap. I don't trust factory alignments anyway.

I'm not convinced that's the problem here though...I think the FR-S is just really soft up front and the chassis moves around a bit. Super soft springs and squishy bushings.

- Andrew

Do you feel that the stock BRZ front springs are much more stable? What do you think about just swapping the front FR-S springs with the BRZ's?

And do you have the part number for that camber bolt again? Is it actually recommended by Subaru to use for that reason? Thanks.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by Bristecom

Do you feel that the stock BRZ front springs are much more stable? What do you think about just swapping the front FR-S springs with the BRZ's?

And do you have the part number for that camber bolt again? Is it actually recommended by Subaru to use for that reason? Thanks.

Yes, I think the BRZ front springs are better. But I think our RCE Yellows springs with included shortened bumpstops are better still. But yes I prefer the BRZ feel to the FR-S....it's just too soft up front, too much movement and you roll onto the bumpstops easily.

I'm at home (thanks hurricane sandy) so I don't have the part number for the OEM camber bolts but it's posted somewhere on the forums. We can get them for you if you need them and can bundle them with our RCE springs. I'm honestly not sure why Subaru/Scion didn't make them standard. There really aren't any drawbacks to them.

- Andrew

[DriftEightSix]

I have noticed that my steering is getting a lot loser.

As I can move the wheel <---&---> more before i can feel turn in... how do i fix this!?

[DEnd]

It could be tires, or alignment, or loose parts. My bet would be the alignment.

[Tunz]

Did you ever figure out what the problem was?

[gmookher]

Dump Prius tires

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by Accathla

I just posted in the BRZ section about the steering feeling loose and wondering if thats normal after some break-in. But reading your description it does sound like a floating feeling. The steering just moves so much easier then before. One week everything was great the next I was wondering what is with my steering.

I do a good 30-40minute drive on the turnpike every day to work. Straight line going 80 and constantly feel like i'am adjusting for movement the car is doing like it was windy outside pushing the car around a little. The resistance the steering had the last couple months just disappeared. Even shifting just casually was no issue before sometimes will pull the car to one side now.

I've owned the Car since August 1st and has 3200 miles on it. All stock car and just had to put air in the tires today my back driver side tire was very low while the rest were fine.

Funny that you wrote this, as I was just logging on to try to explain this exact same feeling (mostly while driving in a straight line, and at freeway speeds). Kind of like the rear is planted, but the front not so much, and a VERY similar feeling to other cars I've owned moving around, but that would be on a windy day.

Strange feeling that maybe I'll get used to, but reading all the reviews about how balanced the car is, and planted, I was beginning to think something was wrong.

I've also got the little bit of play in the steering wheel before the car actually moves left to right (as in I can do a little left right left right jerk to the steering wheel a few degrees, and the car will stay straight).

Strange indeed.

[JPM Coachworks]

Problem with the steering rack bushing perhaps?

[7thgear]

[QUOTE=Burrcold;570103
I've also got the little bit of play in the steering wheel before the car actually moves left to right (as in I can do a little left right left right jerk to the steering wheel a few degrees, and the car will stay straight).
[/QUOTE]

Why are you jerking the wheel left to right?

Think about that real hard then realize that it's a good thing that the car is compensating for your silliness by not actually doing what you want to do.

[86•BRZ]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

Why are you jerking the wheel left to right?

Think about that real hard then realize that it's a good thing that the car is compensating for your silliness by not actually doing what you want to do.

the steering is electrically power assisted, it is not steer by wire, if you move the steering wheel, the wheels should move too! the car doesn't "compensate"