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FirestormFRS · 10-27-2012, 08:29 PM

How's it handle the hills in the snow. That's my concern with the car. Here not only does it snow but you can't go 2 miles without facing a climb combined with curves.

Ingen · 10-28-2012, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by younggon

Thanks for sharing. Firestorm looks awesome on snow! I've never experienced RWD on snow. How much difference does snow tire make during winter?

Snow tires are cheaper than bodywork.

Khyron686 · 10-28-2012, 01:15 AM

Studded snows with 100 lbs of salt in the trunk, runs fine. But if you turn off all the TC/SC the car spins if you look at it funny. Sport mode is safe.

Hills and highways I'm driving better than I do in my SUV. And MPG is unchanged.

firehawk · 10-28-2012, 05:23 AM

Proper snow tyres have a massive traction advantage over summer or all-season tyres. Mine are studless, so on clear ice they are not quite as effective as studded ones, though. Here in southwestern Finland we generally have clear asphalt during winters due to road salt, so studless tyres are a bit more comfortable in terms of road noise and dry traction.

Last friday, on my way back from work, I had to stop in the middle of an uphill because some cars with summer tyres had gotten stuck in the snowstorm. Even then, I had no trouble getting moving from a standstill. The rears spun slightly all the time but the traction control worked incredibly well. This car is just so incredibly easy to drive in the winter compared to, for example, RWD Corollas. Because you can switch the assists off, you can still have just as much fun.

The first morning we had frost, the driver side window got a bit cranky and the 'AUTO' -lights on the switches just flashed. Re-calibrating the window fixed it and it hasn't happened again eventhough there's been a lot more ice on the windows after that.

jmaryt · 10-28-2012, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Khyron686

Studded snows with 100 lbs of salt in the trunk, runs fine. But if you turn off all the TC/SC the car spins if you look at it funny. Sport mode is safe.

Hills and highways I'm driving better than I do in my SUV. And MPG is unchanged.

geeez! that sucks,and to think its headed here! (hot damn!) i like that color!
looks rich! nice dark blue! sweet!

FRiSson · 10-28-2012, 11:00 AM

The weight in the trunk is a mistake. It will magnify the tendency of the rear end to fishtail. That force is far greater than any small advantage in traction.

TheSt|G · 10-28-2012, 12:00 PM

I have my snows and mud flaps ready, bring it on winter.

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Originally Posted by FRiSson

The weight in the trunk is a mistake. It will magnify the tendency of the rear end to fishtail. That force is far greater than any small advantage in traction.

Indeed, and it will only assist in acceleration, which shouldn't be an issue with proper tires.

Khyron686 · 10-28-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FRiSson

The weight in the trunk is a mistake. It will magnify the tendency of the rear end to fishtail. That force is far greater than any small advantage in traction.

Hrm, interesting. With the stab control I figured more weight in the back axle would let it have more effect. But I can see the point if I was actually fishtailing.

FRiSson · 10-28-2012, 04:32 PM

Toyobaru designed the FR-S to place the center of gravity as low and as centered in the car as possible. If you feel the need to add additional weight to the car put it in the passenger seat footwell - that way it will not skew the center of gravity and tend to pull the car off-axis in a spin.

Synack · 10-28-2012, 04:43 PM

Can someone please enlighten me on what 'snow' is?

Cade01 · 10-28-2012, 05:29 PM

Where are you guys finding a proper size steel wheel for the FR-S/BRZ? I've looked around and can't seem to find any for the car.

einzlr · 10-28-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Synack

Can someone please enlighten me on what 'snow' is?

get a mirror, a razor blade and a straw and I'll show you

Synack · 10-28-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by einzlr

get a mirror, a razor blade and a straw and I'll show you

lol......

RaceR · 10-28-2012, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Synack

Can someone please enlighten me on what 'snow' is?

Snow is the cool white stuff that falls from the sky when temperature gets low enough. It makes a stock low HP RWD car with winter tires transform into a .... DORIFTO MACHINE!

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FirestormFRS Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Anytown Posts: 920 Thanks: 73 Thanked 643 Times in 302 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How's it handle the hills in the snow. That's my concern with the car. Here not only does it snow but you can't go 2 miles without facing a climb combined with curves.

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Khyron686 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2011 Outlander XLS, 2013 FR-S Blue Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 634 Thanks: 129 Thanked 168 Times in 102 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Studded snows with 100 lbs of salt in the trunk, runs fine. But if you turn off all the TC/SC the car spins if you look at it funny. Sport mode is safe. Hills and highways I'm driving better than I do in my SUV. And MPG is unchanged.

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FRiSson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FR-S MT Location: New England Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 118 Thanked 483 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The weight in the trunk is a mistake. It will magnify the tendency of the rear end to fishtail. That force is far greater than any small advantage in traction.

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FRiSson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FR-S MT Location: New England Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 118 Thanked 483 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Toyobaru designed the FR-S to place the center of gravity as low and as centered in the car as possible. If you feel the need to add additional weight to the car put it in the passenger seat footwell - that way it will not skew the center of gravity and tend to pull the car off-axis in a spin.

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