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Old 10-11-2012, 04:20 PM   #29
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It sounds like many of you have forgotten what this car is about. Ive been following the FR-S longgg before production, and it is everything i wished for +plus more. I did not buy this car for "steering wheel controls" or "auto headlights" , or in that case, AUTO-ANYTHING. This car is built for the DRIVER to DRIVE. Not to push a button, let it crank over, and relax in luxury on your way to the store. If you wanted that you shoulda bought anything but an FR-S.

...so strange hearing some of the complaints about this car. its like ppl just thought it looked cool, bought it, then started crying because the computer didnt do everything for them.

From the ground up it was built to modify and drive. Instead of dwelling on the sound system (which i think sounds freakin great stock), try thorwin a roll cage in ur car, thats right the dash was built for adding a roll cage. and thats just one example.
how about a track day? no complaints.
i know what you mean, ive been following for 5 years now, dream car came true, glad it was as cheap as they made it

lots of buttons make life harder, ever have that best friend that has to change the radio station from your steering wheel in when you're in another car?

roll cage will fit in my second FRS , need room for the little ones atm, plus i dont like driving the camry, ive put 100 miles on it since ive got the FRS lol...

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My thoughts exactly. No steering wheel buttons = WIN!
you know how many times is was in a BMW, went to drift and changed the music, ruining my focus?!?!?!??!?!?!?!? lol jk but yeah its annoying, i like being able to flick the wheel, let go of it and grab it during a drift transition without it messing with my music, anyone here drift to dubstep? i personally dont like dubstep but some reason it helps me drift, and i enjoy listening to it drifting and drifting only... weird...
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:38 PM   #30
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Word.

I think more of you guys need to live with an old beater for a while or something. lol

I came from a 99 Miata and the FR-S just feels so much more accommodating in everyway while still delivering all that fun I used to have.

Funny, I came from a 99 10AE with everything done to it. I had it for seven years. This car is so much better in versitility and comfort. I read people complaining about road noise and such; and I'm trying to figure out what merc they came from to think this car is loud.
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racing something is in my family blood, my daughter likes drag racing and nascar, lol... expensive hobbies for them in the future lol, too bad itll be coming out of my paycheck till they are 16, prob get them into shifter kart racing or something to begin with
Unfortunately, racing is not in my family blood... However, my kids are inspired by THE Lightning Mcqueen... Ka-chow!

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Old 10-11-2012, 05:22 PM   #32
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:34 PM   #33
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Funny, I came from a 99 10AE with everything done to it. I had it for seven years. This car is so much better in versitility and comfort. I read people complaining about road noise and such; and I'm trying to figure out what merc they came from to think this car is loud.
I had a 99 and then an 02 LS up until last month when I traded it for my FR-S. I had always said if Miata had made a coupe I would have been driving that. My options were to go with the FR-S or a new Miata with the PRHT and the price difference was just too great. I'm so glad I went with the FR-S. It's everything and even more than I could have hoped for.


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Old 10-11-2012, 06:06 PM   #34
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:14 PM   #35
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Toyota simply made the decision that it was not financially viable to send over multiple trim levels (probably right), and this segued nicely with Scion's loathsome "no trim levels, one spec model" business plan. Subaru obviously felt differently about the idea of trim levels (though I wonder how many people specifically wanted the Premium and not the Limited trim, versus how many settled because that's all they could find).
What gets me about this is that Subaru (Fuji) is building ALL the cars. All the 86s, all the FR-Ss, and all the BRZs. So what's the actual cost of installing the goodies on the us-bound production cars? I mean, the engineering is ALL done, and the parts are there. The cool headlights from the brz, the knee padding from the 86, the JDM mirror (which I'm really still not sure why we can't have).... Since the parts already exist, I'm not sure why they can't sell them here. I suppose it could be a manufacturing capacity problem, and they found it cheaper to not up the supply capacity and to instead just throttle demand.

I dunno. I don't think Toyota would have lost any money since the cars are being ordered anyway - it has to go down the same line, and end up on the same boat.

As far as my source? It's conjecture. But I can't come up with anything better and they certainly won't tell us. It seems silly that they would build the car together then slug it out all over the world to see who could sell it better... talk about shooting themselves in the foot.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:59 PM   #36
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i know what you mean, ive been following for 5 years now, dream car came true, glad it was as cheap as they made it

lots of buttons make life harder, ever have that best friend that has to change the radio station from your steering wheel in when you're in another car?

roll cage will fit in my second FRS , need room for the little ones atm, plus i dont like driving the camry, ive put 100 miles on it since ive got the FRS lol...



you know how many times is was in a BMW, went to drift and changed the music, ruining my focus?!?!?!??!?!?!?!? lol jk but yeah its annoying, i like being able to flick the wheel, let go of it and grab it during a drift transition without it messing with my music, anyone here drift to dubstep? i personally dont like dubstep but some reason it helps me drift, and i enjoy listening to it drifting and drifting only... weird...
YES!!! i love drifting to dubstep! :happy0180:
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Old 10-16-2012, 03:11 PM   #37
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Sweet, I'm in Fairview Heights too.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:21 PM   #38
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Get a minivan. There shouldn't be a sunroof on a car when they worked so hard to get the center of gravity lower than the Cayman. Glass is heavy!

Also, to the thread starter... screw you! My ultramarine FR-S is hanging out on a train... somewhere... in the US. It hit port on the 23rd of September, and there's been utterly no updates or progress indications. Apparently it'll just show up one day.

I want my baby !

But back to my original point... miles to empty? Auto-on headlights? Come on guys, it's an incredible car for 24k. If you wanted all the toys you should have bought the Subie. Toyota probably can't put all the options on the scion because of some agreement with Subaru about competing for the same customers.
i was just kidding about the sunroof,just mentioned it to be funny! i believe you are correct when stating probably they have an agreement in place to put certain goodies on certain cars!
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Get a minivan. There shouldn't be a sunroof on a car when they worked so hard to get the center of gravity lower than the Cayman. Glass is heavy!

Also, to the thread starter... screw you! My ultramarine FR-S is hanging out on a train... somewhere... in the US. It hit port on the 23rd of September, and there's been utterly no updates or progress indications. Apparently it'll just show up one day.

I want my baby !
I'm sorry! Hope it gets here soon!! I had to drive 400 miles to get mine
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the fewer bells and whistles the better. less shit to short out one day less to repair and fix less voltage drops from corrosion over the years and hard to find power drains. i love it. simple and clean
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:07 PM   #41
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Also? See every other market in the world that gets multiple trim levels; and America's history of getting ****ed over by foreign car makers, and getting whatever scraps they decide to throw us (e.g. 240SX instead of Silvia, only three years of the FD3S, etc...) There is no non-competition agreement: Toyota simply made the decision that it was not financially viable to send over multiple trim levels (probably right), and this segued nicely with Scion's loathsome "no trim levels, one spec model" business plan. Subaru obviously felt differently about the idea of trim levels (though I wonder how many people specifically wanted the Premium and not the Limited trim, versus how many settled because that's all they could find).
Do you guys appreciate just how cheap you get your cars compared to just about every other country in the world?
We were wrapped in Oz that the BRZ and GT86 were so cheap but compared to what you pay they are a rip off, especially with the $AU worth more than the $US.

Japan is closer to our ports and they don't have to build a LHD export version either cos we drive on the correct side same as them.

At least we get 2 versions of the Toyota and it's called a Toyota. The GT is base spec and the GTS is specced higher than the BRZ. Still jealous!
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Sweet, I'm in Fairview Heights too.
Where do you stay? I've only seen 2 ultramarine FR-S's. One on Scott, AFB... really young guy with Florida tags and one with IL tags at those apartments across from Target.

I have a garage that I need put work into to make it really resourceful, not much right now... But I do have one of my Subaru's torn down in it. But if you ever need a roof to work on your stuff it's available on my days off & time off... Pretty new to the area myself, but know guys from the past in my KC days.
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