FT-86 vote for you engine layout 2.0L NA vs 2.0L Turbo vs 6 banger - Page 4 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Dimman · 06-23-2011, 11:30 PM

Subaru guys on NASIOC are talking about how the engine placement in the FT86 makes Subaru's conventional 'behind and to the right' turbo placement a no-go.

That being said, still no news on the new WRX/STI motor and how its turbo will be mounted.

WingsofWar · 06-23-2011, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimman

Subaru guys on NASIOC are talking about how the engine placement in the FT86 makes Subaru's conventional 'behind and to the right' turbo placement a no-go.

That being said, still no news on the new WRX/STI motor and how its turbo will be mounted.

yeah i can see that..if the engine sits low and close to the firewall..no room for turbo without moving at the very least the engine forward.

Although a supercharger option sounds enticing...and give it a retarded Toyota engine designation like... D4F-ZTE

Dimman · 06-24-2011, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsofWar

yeah i can see that..if the engine sits low and close to the firewall..no room for turbo without moving at the very least the engine forward.

Although a supercharger option sounds enticing...and give it a retarded Toyota engine designation like... D4F-ZTE

On one of the turbo Legacy versions they do run the piping forward. But space may be an issue with this car.

OldSkoolToys · 06-24-2011, 01:44 AM

This poll is bogus. There's no 200hp 1.8 L4 n/a option to vote on.

[es vi: eks] · 06-24-2011, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimman

On one of the turbo Legacy versions they do run the piping forward. But space may be an issue with this car.

That would be interesting to find out were you could make a turbo work on the FT?
Maybe two wee turbos right under the heads were the exhaust ports come out?

bofa · 06-24-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by [es vi: eks]

That would be interesting to find out were you could make a turbo work on the FT?
Maybe two wee turbos right under the heads were the exhaust ports come out?

If not, there's always the turbo muffler option.

Random_Art · 06-24-2011, 09:14 AM

I hope those were ebay turbos... Something that pointless would be a waste of a real quality turbo.

MtnDrvr86 · 06-24-2011, 12:20 PM

Looks like they tried to make their own version of this rear mounted turbo system. haha http://www.ststurbo.com/

bofa · 06-24-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MtnDrvr86

Looks like they tried to make their own version of this rear mounted turbo system. haha http://www.ststurbo.com/

Those are pretty interesting. I did some searching and found quite a few people that swear by them and had decent gains. I found a few 350Z and Camaro videos on youtube too.

PAImportTuner · 06-24-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

lol. The turbo loving here just shows how this forum has changed, not how likely Subaru will use a turbo engine

.

If that is what you want why did you vote 2.0T?

Edit: Sheesh why does the poll say flat or v? I thought I was careful not to put that into the poll, dagnabbit!

Because a 2.0T performance would be the easiest for the everyone power and mpg wise, so I could live with it.

All I want is a non-obnoxious, streetable 230-250RWHP. I don't care how it's done really. All I know is that the 2.0 N/A won't do it without losing it's daily drive-ability or being crazy loud, so it doesn't get my vote.

PAImportTuner · 06-24-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimman

On one of the turbo Legacy versions they do run the piping forward. But space may be an issue with this car.

Correct the new 10/11 Legacy GTs run the turbo forward, getting rid of the boxer rumble(thank god).

It's very easy and possible for the FT to go turbo, you can see it does not extend beyond the engine, maybe just a bit.

WingsofWar · 06-24-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PAImportTuner

Correct the new 10/11 Legacy GTs run the turbo forward, getting rid of the boxer rumble(thank god).

It's very easy and possible for the FT to go turbo, you can see it does not extend beyond the engine, maybe just a bit.

That would definitely fix the horizontal issue having it forward so it wont hit the firewall. But what about the lateral?

The 10/11 Legacy GTs are pretty tall and large cars. and that sub frame height lengthens the total engine compartment. You think with the smaller FT86's engine being lowslung might have clearance issues with putting the turbo and piping directly below the engine? How close will the engine sit to the engine cradle and subframe? and will that have a major effect on the implementation of a turbo as well?

Maybe raising the engine up? or the car up? would that change the COG balance?

OldSkoolToys · 06-25-2011, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsofWar

Maybe raising the engine up? or the car up? would that change the COG balance?

yes, but to the large portion of the lewlzturbo crowd, neutral balance and low CoG mean jack squat. Err, wait, they couldn't slam their car's completely negating their suspension's use if you would have to raise it...hrrmm....quite a conundrum.

OldSkoolToys · 06-25-2011, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PAImportTuner

All I want is a non-obnoxious, streetable 230-250RWHP. I don't care how it's done really. All I know is that the 2.0 N/A won't do it without losing it's daily drive-ability or being crazy loud, so it doesn't get my vote.

Here, I found you a new avatar:

View Poll Results: Which engine layout would you prefer the FT-86 to use?
Naturally Aspirated 2.0L	33	36.67%
Turbocharged 2.0L	42	46.67%
small block 6 cylinder(flat or V)<3.0L	9	10.00%
2.5L 4 banger option	6	6.67%
Voters: 90. You may not vote on this poll

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