Another AVO/Perrin Install

[msile]

Mods (Performance) so far....

Rays 17” Seibon Edition - 15.5 Pounds. Wheel and Tire two pounds less than stock. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16843
Perrin Pulley
HKS Cat-Back Exhaust
Nameless Down&Over Pipe with High Flow Cat
AVO Intake
Perrin Filter
PTF CF Drive Shaft - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18364
FA20 Club Flash - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17974

The install was very simple. The fit and finish was excellent and everything lined up perfectly. Initial observation was very good. Good throttle response, no bogging and smooth acceleration to redline. With some of my other mods, the tach spins to redline like a rocket already. This was just icing on the cake.

[fl_speed001]

I am considering this combo as well, already have the Perrin filter. Did AVO include the plug for the sound generator or did you add that on your own? If you added it care to share the plug size?

[msile]

Originally Posted by fl_speed001

I am considering this combo as well, already have the Perrin filter. Did AVO include the plug for the sound generator or did you add that on your own? If you added it care to share the plug size?

Got the plug from Dustin@Dynosty. He is a vendor here.

[Dustin@Dynosty]

very clean!

[garf]

any changes on your impression on the intake? still running good? and do you think its worth the money? Oh and either way im buying that plug asap!

[gmookher]

nice build ...

where is a thread on your HKS setup?

[karne]

How many miles did you do on that setup so far?

[bigjake]

perrins own silicone tube is much better

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by bigjake

perrins own silicone tube is much better

How did you come to that conclusion?

Msile, any reason you went for the AVO and plugged it rather than one that deletes the noise pipe and resonator? I've just fitted mine but I got it because I wanted to keep my noise generator.

[bigjake]

The overall design incorporates a less gradual bend, which means better flow, as well as no openings for a resonator or sound generator, which he wound up plugging.

[Hawk77FT]

Originally Posted by bigjake

The overall design incorporates a less gradual bend, which means better flow, as well as no openings for a resonator or sound generator, which he wound up plugging.

The sound generator does not affect the perfomance of the tube at all. It does not suck air and does not affect the airflow. And let's say, even if it does the difference is so insignificant that you wont be able to notice.
Also, if you look careful, the "less gradual bend" in Perrin's design, actually has two bends rather than one - less bends the better. The only thing that could make a diference in the Perrin's tube is the slightly larger tube diameter on one of the tube bends. that part however could get quite hot from the engine so it might not be a beneficial. Look at the design of the FA20 club intake. that is what I would call "much better".

The differences in the AVO/Perrin/Zeta perfomance is so small that you wont feel the difference. I guess the price is the deciding factor here. And yes, maybe the look under the bonnet.

[bigjake]

I didn't mention the sound generator delete making less power, I'd have to agree with you on that, but since he plugged it anyways, it was worth noting.

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by Hawk77FT

Look at the design of the FA20 club intake. that is what I would call "much better".

Exactly. These silicone pipes all do the same thing so you can't really say one is much if any better than another. The differences are all so tiny that they probably all perform identically. After all the Perrin has smoothed bends but the AVO is oversized. For me, I wanted to keep the noise pipe. If I hadn't I wouldn't have got the AVO but not because it's not as good as another.

So Hawk has it in a nutshell (but I'll add in Samco too):

Originally Posted by Hawk77FT

The differences in the AVO/Perrin/Zeta perfomance/Samco is so small that you wont feel the difference. I guess the price is the deciding factor here. And yes, maybe the look under the bonnet.

[Hawk77FT]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

Exactly. These silicone pipes all do the same thing so you can't really say one is much if any better than another. The differences are all so tiny that they probably all perform identically. After all the Perrin has smoothed bends but the AVO is oversized. For me, I wanted to keep the noise pipe. If I hadn't I wouldn't have got the AVO but not because it's not as good as another.

So Hawk has it in a nutshell (but I'll add in Samco too):

In terms of quality they all look quite good (4 ply reinforced silicone, etc) so I can't find anthing wrong with that. Now I am thinking to take one silicone tube and wrap it in CF leaving the end uncovered. That might help with the heating problems (if any) and bring MORE bling under the hood.
I can see the Perrin having the edges slightly smooter but what difference would that make in terms of performance? I am guessing close to zero.

Why did you want to keep the tube? I am quite tempted to keep mine too.