SiriusXM radio in the FR-S

[TemeCal]

Originally Posted by Synack

Not to mention you have to watch your data. Unless you have unlimited, but that's being killed off these days.

Agree. It's a ridiculous solution for me. I have 4 smart phones in my own family, between my wife and kids. It's already a fortune paying for the outrageous data prices. Those who have SiriusXM built in, can understand the difference. Those who don't, can't understand why we pay $10/month for service when you can stream from your phone. Again, for me and my family...hands down, SiriusXM integrated into the head unit is the only way to go.

Anyway, sorry to derail.

[TemeCal]

Originally Posted by Katana

OK, I know - don't flame please - these are some pretty hodeous pics, but I thought I'd share in case they might be helpful to some. That Pioneer tuner for $50 would be awesome - wish I'd known about it - would have been worth a shot anyway, and I bet it uses a regular XM antenna so if it breaks you don't have to get one from Toyota for mucho dinero... Oh well - water under the bridge for me at this point. Maybe someone else can do a writeup with that cheaper solution?

Anyway, here are a few pics of my install:

No flames here! Props to you for providing us with so much information, and for all of the pictures. It's very much appreciated!!!

...oh, the $50 receiver I was referring to, is an addon to a Pioneer head unit (like the x940bt). So, it's still cheaper to go your route. I just don't like the price they charge for a receiver that should be under $100.

[Katana]

Originally Posted by TemeCal

Agree. It's a ridiculous solution for me. I have 4 smart phones in my own family, between my wife and kids. It's already a fortune paying for the outrageous data prices. Those who have SiriusXM built in, can understand the difference. Those who don't, can't understand why we pay $10/month for service when you can stream from your phone. Again, for me and my family...hands down, SiriusXM integrated into the head unit is the only way to go.

Anyway, sorry to derail.

Not to mention those of us who bought into the lifetime subscription back in the day! I'd gladly pay the $280 to have XM in my 4Runner or FR-s for as long as I want with no monthly bill - otherwise, I might not be as keen on the built-in install myself. Had XM in our vehicles for about 10 years now, and paid I think about $300 each for the lifetime subs, and still getting service in both our cars. Now I just have to keep moving the tuners from vehicle to vehicle as we trade - this was the last radio swap they would do for us... just gotta keep buying Toyotas I guess. Bummers! Still though, I think we're getting our money's worth.

[applekash]

Would you know what part to get for the Sirius XM Receiver... Since my sub is with Sirius

Originally Posted by Katana

Here is exactly what I used to get my wife's FR-s running XM on the BeSpoke head unit:

XM Receiver - 86180-0W032 - +/- $180.00
Scion tC/iQ fit kit - PT546-21110 - +/- $90.00

That is exactly ALL you need - the antenna comes included with the fit kit. In my case, the fit kit and tuner module were shipped in the same "Toyota Genuine Parts" box - ymmv

Do NOT overpay for these parts - you can search websites like Sparks Toyota out of Myrtle Beach SC (trdsparks.com), or Olathe Toyota out of Olathe KS. Both of those places will get you out the door / shipped for around $280. Who knows - you might even find a less expensive place if you look hard enough - I got sick of looking, and just went ahead and ordered from Sparks. Some people will try to rip you off and charge $350 to $400 just because they can, and because only they know the "magic" part numbers - but hey! If you're reading this, then you know what they know, and can save yourself a chunk of change.

Anyway, I will submit pics later when I can get some in good daylight. This is NOT a HOW-TO - it is a WHAT-I-DID - proceed at your own risk if you want to do this mod - I bear no responsibility for your particular outcome!!! The best part is these are Toyota OEM parts, and will NOT affect your warranty. How they are installed, however, might. So if you are at all wary or reluctant to take this on yourself, please spend a little extra money and have a local car stereo shop do it. They can do it in as little as an hour if they know what they are doing. I was quoted $75 from one near me. Again, ymmv.

The install goes something like this:
>>edit: for correlating pics, go here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=70

- Carefully pop off the trim piece around the head unit - held in place by 5 of those infamous Toyota yellow plastic clips - use a nylon prying tool or equivalent

- Take the 4 bolts out that hold the head unit in place, and pull it out far enough to get a hand behind it

- Snake the communication cable included in the fit kit under the dash and up and out through the hole the head unit is installed in

- Plug the dash end of the cable into the head unit, and reinstall the head unit with the 4 bolts

- Replace dash trim

- Remove the kick panel on the passenger side in front of the door

- Carefully pry the door sill trim up - the clips are all plastic, and are really tight here, so don't break anything

- Remove the floor liner in the trunk that covers the spare (notice the amplifier tucked in there on the left, close to the back seat)

- This is the most tedious and tricky part of the whole install: Remove the antenna from the fit kit, and DO NOT lose the gray plastic piece that goes on the antenna wire LATER. Trust me - you don't want to put it on the wire until later

- Place the antenna on the roof behind the FM antenna, and using a nylon wedge, begin wedging the antenna wire into the slot between the rubber "seal" and the metal roof, not the glass itself, and run it all the way to the right and down until the antenna wire is tucked in the entire trough, and comes out at the right-hand side of the trunk, near to the trunk hinge

- Using some denatured alcohol, carefully clean the inner surface (under the trunk when it is closed) that goes between the end of the trough, and behind the hinge, all the way to the trunk gasket seal

- Pull the gasket seal up in the top right corner, put some electrical tape or equivalent on the sharp metal edge, and pull the antenna wire between the gasket and the metal lip

- Using the provided dark-gray semi-transparent adhesive squares, adhere the antenna wire to the inner surface you cleaned with alcohol (I used some shiny black vinyl tape instead because it matched my wife's Raven Black paint)

- Make a loop in the antenna wire, place it over the metal edge you applied tape to, and firmly press the gasket back down into place

- Route the antenna wire behind the trunk liner, and under the right-rear seat hinge, making sure the wire is completely hidden - this takes some patience and time

- Replace anything you had to remove in the trunk, and put the floor liner back in as well

- Pull the antenna wire through the trough in the door sill where you removed the trim pieces, and route it under the carpet, under the passenger seat, and out through the slot already in the carpet, right beneath the seat-adjustment bar. You'll notice your FR-S VIN number etched in large print on a metal plate down there too!

- Pull the data cable from under the dash, behind the kick plate, and through the door sill trough, and out through the same hole in the carpet you pulled the antenna wire through

- Attach the black grounding wire included in the fit kit to the chassis of the tuner with the eyelet connector

- Here is another challenge - loosen the rear bolt on the the right-hand seat track of the passenger seat - no need to remove it, just loosen it enough to slide the forked connector of the grounding wire under it. It is very very tight. MAKE SURE TO USE A 6 POINT SOCKET FOR THIS BOLT. I believe it is a 9mm? Could be a 10mm - I don't recall. Note the nice slot they left to the inside of the track next to the bolt, perfect for sliding the grounding wire fork connector through

- Slide the connector around the bolt and re-tighten the bolt - I don't know the Toyota torque spec - I just made it good and tight

- Now is the time to snap on the gray connector I said not to lose onto the end of the antenna wire - use a small flat screwdriver to pry up the white retainer, slip in the connector, and snap the white retainer back down, locking the gray connector onto the antenna wire. This connector is square/rectangular, which sucks, because if you damage the antenna wire, you have to buy another fit kit from Toyota - the $30 ones you get at Best Buy are round, and won't fit the module - Toyota does not sell the antenna alone

- Plug the antenna wire into the tuner

- Plug the data cable into the only connector it will fit into on the tuner

- Tuck the tuner module underneath the carpet through the slot the wires were pulled out of

- Lay all excess wire / cable into the door sill, or just stuff it under the carpet - I know, lazy, but you can do whatever suits your taste here

- Carefully replace all trim pieces in reverse order that you removed them, making sure not to pinch any wires / cables

- Make sure everything is tight /snapped in completely

- Turn on the ignition, turn on the radio, press "Source" on the top right of the touch screen, press the "Next" arrow on the bottom right of the touch screen, and if everything went well, you will now have a "Sat" button to press. Go ahead and press it

- With the car out in the open, not under a carport or in a garage, you should get audio on channel 001

- Tune to channel 000, write down your unique radio ID

- Tune back to channel 001

- Call SiriusXM at 800-967-2346 to activate your radio - they will want your name, address, etc, and will need your radio ID# - they will walk you through the process if you are a new subscriber, transferring from another radio, or adding a radio

- Sit and wait about 5 minutes with the radio on, set to SAT, and on channel 001 while the authentication signal is sent to your radio

- Surf the channels and enjoy your new XM setup in your awesome FR-s!

Let me know if this "How I Did It" helped you with your car, and let me know if you have any questions, or if I left out an important detail. I believe in sharing knowledge, not keeping it and trying to rip people off. Power to the people!

[Synack]

Originally Posted by applekash

Would you know what part to get for the Sirius XM Receiver... Since my sub is with Sirius

There's only this one part, and it only works with Sirius XM. So you're in luck.

[Katana]

Originally Posted by applekash

Would you know what part to get for the Sirius XM Receiver... Since my sub is with Sirius

I have no idea about Sirius tuners, or if Toyota even offers them... they might, I just haven't seen them if they do. Sorry - been an XM subscriber forever. The tuner I have been referring to is specifically for XM.

[Katana]

Originally Posted by applekash

Would you know what part to get for the Sirius XM Receiver... Since my sub is with Sirius

After a little Googling, I see that the tuner needed for Sirius is different, and is part number PTS31-53060.

http://b2coedemo.nexpart.com/item.ww...&mfr=&weight=1 $277??? And we thought the XM was bad @ +/- $180... Surely this is available somewhere else for less.

The fit kit for a Scion tC (2005-2010) is part number PTS31-00051-AA.

http://www.trdparts4u.com/scripts/pr...product=275729

I refer to this one because the tC XM fit kit worked for our FR-s, so it just makes sense that the wire lengths would lend themselves to the FR-s installation as well.

I can only assume that these will work with the BeSpoke head, but I want to go on record and say that I have no clue if they will or not. Without further confirmation from someone who knows, it sounds to me like a roll of the dice.

[Synack]

Originally Posted by Katana

After a little Googling, I see that the tuner needed for Sirius is different, and is part number PTS31-53060.

http://www.trdparts4u.com/scripts/pr...product=275729

The fit kit for a Scion tC (2005-2010) is part number PTS31-00051-AA. I refer to this one because the tC XM fit kit worked for our FR-s, so it just makes sense that the wire lengths would lend themselves to the FR-s installation as well.

I can only assume that these will work with the BeSpoke head, but I want to go on record and say that I have no clue if they will or not. Without further confirmation from someone who knows, it sounds to me like a roll of the dice.

The 2005-2010 didn't have BeSpoke, that's why the part number is different. You have to get the stuff for the 2011+ tC.

[Katana]

Originally Posted by Synack

The 2005-2010 didn't have BeSpoke, that's why the part number is different. You have to get the stuff for the 2011+ tC.

That's just what I found real quick - I'm sure more digging would result in a better answer. I do think though that the tuner is different, because it has been unchanged for XM since at least back in '07, and the tuner part I found for Sirius seems to have been around for a while too - saw some references to 06 Camrys and Siennas while searching for a price. XM and Sirius run on different, incompatible technologies btw - different frequencies, and a whole separate network of birds in the sky.

Oh yeah - the tC hasn't changed that much dimensionally through the years, so the wire/cable length differences, if any, would be slight.

[Katana]

The names of the original two geostationary satellites for XM are Rock and Roll - no kidding! lol - Google that one for some interesting reading!

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com...ite-radio2.htm

[Synack]

Originally Posted by Katana

That's just what I found real quick - I'm sure more digging would result in a better answer. I do think though that the tuner is different, because it has been unchanged for XM since at least back in '07, and the tuner part I found for Sirius seems to have been around for a while too - saw some references to 06 Camrys and Siennas while searching for a price. XM and Sirius run on different, incompatible technologies btw - different frequencies, and a whole separate network of birds in the sky.

Oh yeah - the tC hasn't changed that much dimensionally through the years, so the wire/cable length differences, if any, would be slight.

Well if we can find out if any of the plugs are the same that would help. I think it would be extremely idiotic if the plug was completely different just for the sake that we HAVE to buy the Scion part.

[tonystewart]

Everything worked as described, thank you for the part numbers, advice and diy. The installation would not have been possible without this thread and the individuals who broke trail to get this done.

[TemeCal]

Originally Posted by tonystewart

Everything worked as described, thank you for the part numbers, advice and diy. The installation would not have been possible without this thread and the individuals who broke trail to get this done.

I'm just waiting to get my car back from this CEL fiasco. I have my XM receiver and fit kit waiting in my garage to be installed. Where did you install the antenna? Behind the AM/FM antenna like the previous poster?

[tonystewart]

On the roof



A 10mm reverse torx and a big pull bar is needed to loosen the seat bolts to mount the xm tuner under it, the bolts are bs, heed the warning!