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View Poll Results: MT or AT ?
Manual Transmission 696 67.05%
Automatic Transmission 270 26.01%
Manual Transmission but I wish I got Automatic Transmission 11 1.06%
Automatic Transmission but I wish I got Manual Transmission 61 5.88%
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:46 PM   #211
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Just a thought, i think the poll on the manual is higher because the vast majority of the people on this forum are car enthusiasts somewhat, and car enthusiasts have a trend of preferring manual cars, any one have the sales for the FR-S/BRZ separated by their transmission sales?
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:00 AM   #212
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i drive an AT, it's my daily commuter car!
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:24 AM   #213
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MT FR-S in Charcoal and wouldn't have it any other way. A/C off, traction and stability off, and windows down.

Speaking of the a/c, I have noticed a pretty big difference in performance when I have my a/c off. Anyone else? The car just seems a bit peppier and the revs seem to drop and climb faster.
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:33 AM   #214
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I don't see an option for an automated manual =]. My Evo X MR is the twin-clutch automated manual, but my SRT-4 is a 5-speed manual.

I prefer the shifting experience in the SRT-4 greatly over the Evo. The Evo shifts are amazing, better than any human being could possibly shift, both for upshifts and for downshifts, and most certainly make it a faster car around a track than a 5-speed Evo, but it's simply less engaging.

I'll take a slower manual shifted car over a faster automatic/automated car, simply for the joy of driving. Mine will be a manual FR-S.
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:31 AM   #215
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MT FR-S in Charcoal and wouldn't have it any other way. A/C off, traction and stability off, and windows down.

Speaking of the a/c, I have noticed a pretty big difference in performance when I have my a/c off. Anyone else? The car just seems a bit peppier and the revs seem to drop and climb faster.
You always drive with the trac and vsc off? Is there a difference if you were driving normally or do you only feel a difference during spirited driving?
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:35 PM   #216
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You always drive with the trac and vsc off? Is there a difference if you were driving normally or do you only feel a difference during spirited driving?
When I need to pull out into traffic quickly, I can feel the stability control system and/or the traction control system modulating the throttle as I turn so there is no wheel-spin. I'm not sure if it's the traction control or the stability assist that bottlenecks the engine more, but with them off, it allows for more throttle during corners and during launches.

I can't stand it when i'm trying to accelerate quickly while the assists are forcing me to back off.

As far as differences go, it is during spirited driving only. If you're just putting around town, you won't notice a thing. I always turn them off unless it's pouring rain... I'm also averaging about 28mpg, which is low compared to the 32mpg while I was breaking her in. :/
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:42 PM   #217
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MT for better engine control and better throttle response. Haven't driven an automatic in decades.
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Old 09-06-2012, 08:16 PM   #218
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When I need to pull out into traffic quickly, I can feel the stability control system and/or the traction control system modulating the throttle as I turn so there is no wheel-spin. I'm not sure if it's the traction control or the stability assist that bottlenecks the engine more, but with them off, it allows for more throttle during corners and during launches.

I can't stand it when i'm trying to accelerate quickly while the assists are forcing me to back off.

As far as differences go, it is during spirited driving only. If you're just putting around town, you won't notice a thing. I always turn them off unless it's pouring rain... I'm also averaging about 28mpg, which is low compared to the 32mpg while I was breaking her in. :/
This it tempting me to go drive around town with the trac and vsc off but for some reason i just feel like this is a bad idea... for me at least.
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:47 PM   #219
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MT FR-S in Charcoal and wouldn't have it any other way. A/C off, traction and stability off, and windows down.

Speaking of the a/c, I have noticed a pretty big difference in performance when I have my a/c off. Anyone else? The car just seems a bit peppier and the revs seem to drop and climb faster.
All cars with A/c are this way. Take a normal car in moutains, a/c on and a/c off it is easier to tell the power sucking cool air machine robs performance.
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This it tempting me to go drive around town with the trac and vsc off but for some reason i just feel like this is a bad idea... for me at least.
For driving on streets, its a bad idea for most people.

You don't want to end up like this:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8821

The stability control on these cars is not nearly as aggressive as some older systems and if you're driving responsibly you shouldn't notice it at all.

Don't end up in a ditch or a telephone pole. Don't switch your VSC off.
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AT because they don't require clutch changes, manuals suck for driving in stop and go traffic, and I'm old and have driven enough manuals to cover my lifespan.
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MT because AT isn't fun
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:04 AM   #223
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This it tempting me to go drive around town with the trac and vsc off but for some reason i just feel like this is a bad idea... for me at least.
Have you driven a rwd with no TCS or VSC before? It's like riding a bike to me, especially with a car with only 200hp and 151tq, but I learned with a '07 350z 6-spd and a completely raw 598ci 800hp 5-speed '55 Bel-air, so I may be a little more experienced than most people... lol!
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AT all the way. Apparently I have 2 left feet - tried to learn on a friend's car until the CEL came on. The FR-S AT is the best AT that I have driven to date. No regrets - especially when I have had few too many and then my wife can drive get us home.
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