What do you drive - MT or AT?

[vtmike]

The auto is a torque converter slush box. Not a modern dual clutch set up.

The ironic thing is all of you guys who paid extra for the auto have a far less desirable car than the cheaper manual transmission cars. Point proven by all the auto fr-S's sitting around on lots all over the country while there is a shortage of manual cars. Have fun selling your cars to all the 16 year old girls in the future :-)

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[Memphis]

Originally Posted by trifenix

So the at drifts as good as the mt? I keep hearing good things about the at but have not test drove yet. I am also curious about at strength.

It gets sideways quite easy.

[GenkiElite]

Originally Posted by Deebeaux

MT. I've regretted every AT purchase except for the Lightning. Just personal preference.

No choice on the Lightning. Im sure they would have sold if offered in manual but having an auto in a truck is nice. The shifter would have to 2 feet long.

[Spartan65]

This is my first AT car, EVER. I did some homework, and while Aisin shows various transmission, we have the RWD 6-speed Automatic Transmission (TB-61SN) which has a max torque capacity of 400 Nm. More than adequate for the NA bolt on parts I plan on. Every WRX I have ever had, the transmission MT was the first part to fail and I've never had over 350 WHP.
I miss the interaction but driving in the AT in M mode is my joy.
And for the fact I won't have to buy a clutch before my car hits 30K all I can say is enjoy the MT while you can, then get your wallet ready.

[GenkiElite]

Originally Posted by trifenix

So the at drifts as good as the mt? I keep hearing good things about the at but have not test drove yet. I am also curious about at strength.

I really really doubt this. You take a a good drifter, not some kid hooning in a parking lot and set him loose in a manual and an auto, he's gonna do much butter with the manual. He will have much more control and will be able to use more techniques from modualting the clutch.

Anyone saying thier auto is just as good is just trying to fool themselves and they know deep down they made the wrong chioce for drifting.

[winter]

Originally Posted by MmmHamSandwich

As a result the AT is tempting since it takes that fancy footwork out of the equation. I'd like to be able to properly heel toe as it is likely much more satisfying than having the car do it for you, but I feel I am at an anatomical disadvantage, and unless there is a good solution for modifying pedal placement, the AT is tempting if for no other reason than to be able to nail downshifts under hard braking. That or I need to man up and do some flexibility exercises and practice practice practice.

On the other hand, and I won't get far into it since it has been beaten to death, I don't like the longer gear ratios 1-4 and the extra weight of the AT.

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(the link from that thread) - http://www.srpracing.com/cat-brz.cfm

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[russv]

Originally Posted by vtmike

The auto is a torque converter slush box. Not a modern dual clutch set up.

The ironic thing is all of you guys who paid extra for the auto have a far less desirable car than the cheaper manual transmission cars. Point proven by all the auto fr-S's sitting around on lots all over the country while there is a shortage of manual cars. Have fun selling your cars to all the 16 year old girls in the future :-)

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Interesting that Ferrari doesn't sell a manual and a majority of Porsches are automated manuals. Why do you think that is? The FRS auto is quite an excellent transmission as is the manual. Desirability is in the eye of the beholder. I'll have absolutely no problem selling my car in the future to anyone.

[russv]

Originally Posted by GenkiElite

I really really doubt this. You take a a good drifter, not some kid hooning in a parking lot and set him loose in a manual and an auto, he's gonna do much butter with the manual. He will have much more control and will be able to use more techniques from modualting the clutch.

Anyone saying thier auto is just as good is just trying to fool themselves and they know deep down they made the wrong chioce for drifting.

I bought this car because of its handling qualities and not to drift it like an adolescent in a parking lot, tearing the car up in the process. I take care of my investment. I bought the auto because it is an excellent transmission as is the manual.

[Memphis]

Originally Posted by GenkiElite

I really really doubt this. You take a a good drifter, not some kid hooning in a parking lot and set him loose in a manual and an auto, he's gonna do much butter with the manual. He will have much more control and will be able to use more techniques from modualting the clutch.

Anyone saying thier auto is just as good is just trying to fool themselves and they know deep down they made the wrong chioce for drifting.

Im actually willing to bet the auto is easier than you think it is to get sideways. I have no problem doing it.

I also have a feeling that a person in an auto would have an easier time with the butter. JS

I will also be real honest with you. I do wish I would have gotten the manual. But only because it needs a different stall converter for launching :p Other than that the auto is fabulous.

[Memphis]

Originally Posted by russv

I bought this car because of its handling qualities and not to ATTEMPT to drift it like an adolescent in a parking lot, tearing the car up in the process. I take care of my investment. I bought the auto because it is an excellent transmission as is the annual.

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[sho220]

Originally Posted by russv

I bought this car because of its handling qualities and not to drift it like an adolescent in a parking lot

[ravenMTgirl]

My rule is if the car has 350+ HP I buy an AT (my 04 GTO), otherwise I get a MT. I'm happy with my decision but after reading all the good things everyone says about the AT in this car, I kind of wish I would have at least test drove one.

[GenkiElite]

Originally Posted by russv

I bought this car because of its handling qualities and not to drift it like an adolescent in a parking lot, tearing the car up in the process. I take care of my investment. I bought the auto because it is an excellent transmission as is the manual.

I don't care why you bought your car. We were having a discussion about the pros and cons of manual vs auto and we were also talking about how that may effect drifting. Did you actually read my post or did you see drifting and parking lot in the same sentence and just went with it? If you read the whole thing you would see I don't condone parking lot shenanigans. Auto X can also be hard on a vehicle so are you gonna go over to those threads and point your finger of shame at them as well? And on a side note, someone who is clearly as mature as you knows that a car is probably one of the worst "investments" one can make so let loose a little, throw on some steelies with shit tires and go to a local track day drift session but be careful because you might have some fun.

[GenkiElite]

Originally Posted by Memphis

Im actually willing to bet the auto is easier than you think it is to get sideways. I have no problem doing it.

I also have a feeling that a person in an auto would have an easier time with the butter. JS

I will also be real honest with you. I do wish I would have gotten the manual. But only because it needs a different stall converter for launching :p Other than that the auto is fabulous.

I get what youre saying and I'm sure you do very well but I just have to point back to my previous post about giving someone a chance with both and they will most likely perform better with the manual. That someone being someone that knows what they're doing of course.