Schroth Rallye 3 Harnesses - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Draco-REX · 08-19-2012, 08:38 PM

I like the feel of a harness when racing. Being securely held to the seat lets me keep a lighter hand on the wheel, and lets me concentrate on racing instead of staying put.

The Schroth Rallye harnesses are a good light duty/AutoX/RallyX choice. They adhere to DOT regulations and can be put on really easily with one buckle. Installation is straightforward and relatively easy, using the stock belt locations and no welding.

I've used the Rally 4 harnesses on both my RallyX WRX and my STI. But for the BRZ, the lower belt hard points are too close to the front seats for good harness angles. So I went with the Rally 3. The rear mount will bolt to the bracket for the rear shoulder reels. The lap belts mount to the lower shoulder belt mount on the outside and the buckle on the seat on the inside.

Removing the inner body pieces is outlined in this thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...terior+removal Just stop after his step 2. The second picture in his Step 3 shows the upper bracket mount for the shoulder reel. That's the bolt I used for the rear harness mount. Then I just fed the strap through the same slot as the shoulder belt.

The lap belt is a lot easier to install believe it or not. First, the seat has to be unbolted from the floor. It is held in by reverse torx bolts. An E10 socket is needed to loosen these. Once they're out, the seat can be moved forward to make the lower shoulder belt bolt more accessable. To get to the buckle mount, just tilt the seat partway out of the door and the nut is easy to get to on the side.

Now, these are "4-point" harnesses without a submarine belt, so they may not qualify for some forms of racing. But for smaller amateur motorsports, they are a great choice.

Miniata · 08-19-2012, 09:18 PM

Nice! I wonder if Schroth will come out with a Quick-fit Rallye harness for the BRZ/FRS like they have for some other popular car models. I've got a Schroth Rallye Quick-fit harness in my Mini Cooper, and have had the universal Rallye 3 & 4 in my Neons about 10 years ago.

Draco-REX · 08-19-2012, 09:24 PM

Subaru changed the buckles on the Impreza in 2007 and Schroth never updated the Quickfits. So I don't think we'll be seeing a quickfit for the BRZ/FRS.

Miniata · 08-19-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX

Subaru changed the buckles on the Impreza in 2007 and Schroth never updated the Quickfits. So I don't think we'll be seeing a quickfit for the BRZ/FRS.

Yeah, I wasn't very hopeful. Thankfully the standard universal fit Rallye harnesses work in most cars without too much difficulty on the installation process.

Nardi330 · 08-19-2012, 10:40 PM

do you have pic to show how the lap belts are mounted?

thanks heaps.

Draco-REX · 08-20-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nardi330

do you have pic to show how the lap belts are mounted?

thanks heaps.

Unfortunately, I don't. But if you follow the stock shoulder belt down to the frame rail, that's the bolt that the outer belt attaches to, just pull up the rubber cover.

If you slide your hand down the belt buckle on the inside you'll feel the nut holding it on, that's where the inside belt attaches.

rice_classic · 08-20-2012, 08:42 PM

This is not something I would feel safe in.

Nardi330 · 08-20-2012, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX

Unfortunately, I don't. But if you follow the stock shoulder belt down to the frame rail, that's the bolt that the outer belt attaches to, just pull up the rubber cover.

If you slide your hand down the belt buckle on the inside you'll feel the nut holding it on, that's where the inside belt attaches.

cool thanks. i think i know how to install this now.

Draco-REX · 08-20-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic

This is not something I would feel safe in.

I'm petty sure Schroth knows what they're doing. As it is, due to the lack of a submarine belt, this is for light street/AutoX duty only. Schroth has better 5 and 6 point belts for track duty.

Laika · 08-20-2012, 10:38 PM

Hey that's pretty cool! What'd you do about the seatbelt chime?

Draco-REX · 08-20-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Laika

Hey that's pretty cool! What'd you do about the seatbelt chime?

Pull the stock belt around behind the seat and put it in the buckle.

iLuveKetchup · 08-20-2012, 11:39 PM

Are they designed to be mounted on the rear shoulder reels (with an angle)? It just doesn't look right.

Draco-REX · 08-20-2012, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup

Are they designed to be mounted on the rear shoulder reels (with an angle)? It just doesn't look right.

iLuveKetchup · 08-21-2012, 12:05 AM

^ wow that's crazy, but I'm glad that there is a solution out there. Now I want a set. lol

08-19-2012, 08:38 PM	#1
Draco-REX Corner Junkie Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ, 11 STI, 99 RS Location: Ohio Posts: 2,908 Thanks: 129 Thanked 1,521 Times in 702 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Schroth Rallye 3 Harnesses I like the feel of a harness when racing. Being securely held to the seat lets me keep a lighter hand on the wheel, and lets me concentrate on racing instead of staying put. The Schroth Rallye harnesses are a good light duty/AutoX/RallyX choice. They adhere to DOT regulations and can be put on really easily with one buckle. Installation is straightforward and relatively easy, using the stock belt locations and no welding. I've used the Rally 4 harnesses on both my RallyX WRX and my STI. But for the BRZ, the lower belt hard points are too close to the front seats for good harness angles. So I went with the Rally 3. The rear mount will bolt to the bracket for the rear shoulder reels. The lap belts mount to the lower shoulder belt mount on the outside and the buckle on the seat on the inside. Removing the inner body pieces is outlined in this thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...terior+removal Just stop after his step 2. The second picture in his Step 3 shows the upper bracket mount for the shoulder reel. That's the bolt I used for the rear harness mount. Then I just fed the strap through the same slot as the shoulder belt. The lap belt is a lot easier to install believe it or not. First, the seat has to be unbolted from the floor. It is held in by reverse torx bolts. An E10 socket is needed to loosen these. Once they're out, the seat can be moved forward to make the lower shoulder belt bolt more accessable. To get to the buckle mount, just tilt the seat partway out of the door and the nut is easy to get to on the side. Now, these are "4-point" harnesses without a submarine belt, so they may not qualify for some forms of racing. But for smaller amateur motorsports, they are a great choice.

08-19-2012, 09:18 PM	#2
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Nardi330 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: 86 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 2,168 Thanks: 287 Thanked 374 Times in 264 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	do you have pic to show how the lap belts are mounted? thanks heaps.

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rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,173 Thanks: 757 Thanked 4,208 Times in 1,808 Posts Mentioned: 78 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	This is not something I would feel safe in.

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iLuveKetchup My VTEC fluid is full Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: EFF JAY Location: NYC Posts: 935 Thanks: 149 Thanked 268 Times in 183 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Are they designed to be mounted on the rear shoulder reels (with an angle)? It just doesn't look right.

08-21-2012, 12:05 AM	#14
iLuveKetchup My VTEC fluid is full Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: EFF JAY Location: NYC Posts: 935 Thanks: 149 Thanked 268 Times in 183 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^ wow that's crazy, but I'm glad that there is a solution out there. Now I want a set. lol

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