Cobb Accessport / Products, update fr Ian @ Cobb

[ultra]

I don't really get it when people harp over wanting cheaper tunes.

The single most important things about any tune is the QUALITY of the tune itself and the qualiy of the after sales support.

When you're messing with your tune you're messing with your motor, which is the most complicated and most expensive part of your car. Compromising quality on your tune is just dumb IMO.

The current ECUflash option is way way less complicated and less expensive than going standalone and the quality & after sales support I've seen so far is excellent.

If and when cheaper options come out I'm sure that some fanboys will rush in but IMO they'll all still need to prove the quality of their tunes for his car as well as demonstrate good after sales support before I'd give them any serious thought at all.

Brand names mean nothing - they all rise and fall in quality.

Proven solutions or GTFO IMHO.

[mike2100]

Originally Posted by Opposed

Have fun with the stock, weak flash then...

How is 30+ whp, torque dip nearly eliminated gain on e85 for under 1k such a bad deal? Most people on here drool over a $1200 catback that gains 3-7whp...

Where's the dyno that shows the torque "dip" gone on an N/A car?

[ruskymx]

Here's the dyno of the torque dip nearly eliminated, which does not mean gone. Opposed never said that it was completely gone. It looks like it drops maybe 5lb-ft instead of the 15lb-ft of the stock curve.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=41

Here's a post with the stock tq curve

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=60

I've been running the STG1 v2 flash for about 2 weeks now and the improvement of the dip on the 93 tune is very noticeable. The dip is still there, but much improved.

Ruskymx

[bimmerboy]

cobb AP will def be available, they said the same thing about the AP for the n54 bmw engines, and look what happened

Just takes time. Also no one should expect any major differences than the increases an ecutek offers...

[Subaruwrxfan]

Why are they dynoing this then? [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZOitavdPqo"]163 WHP/ 141 FT/LBS- 2013 Scion FR-S- COBB Tuning Surgeline - YouTube[/ame]

[Ranatsu]

Originally Posted by bimmerboy

cobb AP will def be available, they said the same thing about the AP for the n54 bmw engines, and look what happened

Just takes time. Also no one should expect any major differences than the increases an ecutek offers...

The BMW is turbo charged.. Show me a non FI car that they have an access port for right now.

The odds of them coming out with an AP for any FI car is about 100x more likely than them trying another NA tune.

Maybe they will, but I think it is pretty unlikely. I won't be holding my breath.

[Symbiont]

Originally Posted by Subaruwrxfan

Why are they dynoing this then?

I'll be getting mine dyno'd at Cobb as well, even if I'm not running an AP.

[Mr.Jay]

Originally Posted by Subaruwrxfan

Why are they dynoing this then?

This is an extremely old video

This was originally posted just after the offical lanuch of the FRS

Given how much time has passed I would expect a AP to be out already if they wanted too. Also the number of guys with connections with Cobb have spoken to them and were told they are currently interested in the platform

[bakerr6]

I would imagine they are waiting until more fi packages are on the market

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by bakerr6

I would imagine they are waiting until more fi packages are on the market

why? forced induction customers are going to be a small subset of their BRZ customer base. I imagine easily over 75% of the BRZ/FR-S brought into the US will never see a pound of boost.

[bakerr6]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

why? forced induction customers are going to be a small subset of their BRZ customer base. I imagine easily over 75% of the BRZ/FR-S brought into the US will never see a pound of boost.

Doesn't matter you would want to put out a product that can uphold your reputation. They will wait until they can tune it on fi as that will be their greatest marketing tool

[mike2100]

Originally Posted by bakerr6

Doesn't matter you would want to put out a product that can uphold your reputation. They will wait until they can tune it on fi as that will be their greatest marketing tool

Won't be great without the volume.

[bakerr6]

Originally Posted by mike2100

Won't be great without the volume.

From a marketing perspective it makes perfect sense. You can provide a product that is aimed towards people running fi, but make a product that will also work for milder builds.

[Deepseadiver]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

why? forced induction customers are going to be a small subset of their BRZ customer base. I imagine easily over 75% of the BRZ/FR-S brought into the US will never see a pound of boost.

What about the 2014 STI?