FR-S buying experience... advise

[xrs]

Good job on getting the wash on the trade at least.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Neziah

I would of just put a can of octane booster in the tank and called it good.

This. Honestly, its not like they put diesel in it.

The car will run (undamaged) with a lower grade of gas in it. I'm willing to bet half the 86s sold were delivered with the wrong grade gas in them. I'm about 90% sure mine was a victim.

Sounds like the dealer is trying to do the right thing. Ask for something reasonable.

[chessplaya2010]

just got a call from the dealership.. now they are saying i can't have the car until Tuesday (tomorrow).... Does Scion care about incompetent dealerships...??? will it help if i call Scion Corporate number and complain to them?

[Zach]

20$ says "emptying the gas tank" means letting it idle for the weekend. Dealers are not your friend, and sales/service are bitter enemies who hate dealing with each other.

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by chessplaya2010

just got a call from the dealership.. now they are saying i can't have the car until Tuesday (tomorrow).... Does Scion care about incompetent dealerships...??? will it help if i call Scion Corporate number and complain to them?

All calling corporate will do is create an event report. Its not worth trying to go the corporate route unless you have connections in the company already. If you havent asked already, you should ask why they can't get the car back to you today. Or, alternatively, go in there, check on the car, and then go talk to the GM again. There is nothing more the sales staff hates to see than a customer who is waiting on their car, especially when they have screwed up on something.

And just idling the engine won't do anything to it. If anything, its the best option since the car is under minimal stress.

[FRomar-S]

That dealer is just plain awful, but guess it's too late to do much about that now.

Personally, I would tell them to screw the extra day, you want the car now, and do what everyone here has suggested. Either just run the car on regular for this tank and make sure not to do it again and/or use that octane booster. Tell them you want something like mud guards, or extra year of oil changes or something stupid and get out asap (though idk if you would want to go there for any future service)..

I also know that the FR-S is a great car, but this might be a good learning experience, cause you got hosed pretty bad here on both their stupidity with the car, and your trade-in + experience.

I went to one dealer, left me sitting alone for over 30 minutes while at least 4-5 salesmen were literally hitting a beach ball back and forth, finally came to me and rushed me through the process, and were gonna give me 5500 for my 2007 TC. Grabbed my things, called another dealer, that very night, gave me 8300 for my TC, 2.8% APR, and got my payments well under what I was willing to pay. Did they make money off of me? Sure. Could I possibly squeezed a little bit more? Sure. But the entire experience was so much better, and I didn't get completely ripped off.

You only got 1700 more for your car that was 3 years newer than mine, and almost 40,000 miles less than mine. Though I kept my car clean, there was a significant dent over the passenger front tire from a hit and run in a parking lot.. You are getting treated like shit cause they know if you step away they will sell the car anyway, and they are getting away with such crap customer service..

[chessplaya2010]

Originally Posted by FRomar-S

That dealer is just plain awful, but guess it's too late to do much about that now.

Personally, I would tell them to screw the extra day, you want the car now, and do what everyone here has suggested. Either just run the car on regular for this tank and make sure not to do it again and/or use that octane booster. Tell them you want something like mud guards, or extra year of oil changes or something stupid and get out asap (though idk if you would want to go there for any future service)..

I also know that the FR-S is a great car, but this might be a good learning experience, cause you got hosed pretty bad here on both their stupidity with the car, and your trade-in + experience.

I went to one dealer, left me sitting alone for over 30 minutes while at least 4-5 salesmen were literally hitting a beach ball back and forth, finally came to me and rushed me through the process, and were gonna give me 5500 for my 2007 TC. Grabbed my things, called another dealer, that very night, gave me 8300 for my TC, 2.8% APR, and got my payments well under what I was willing to pay. Did they make money off of me? Sure. Could I possibly squeezed a little bit more? Sure. But the entire experience was so much better, and I didn't get completely ripped off.

You only got 1700 more for your car that was 3 years newer than mine, and almost 40,000 miles less than mine. Though I kept my car clean, there was a significant dent over the passenger front tire from a hit and run in a parking lot.. You are getting treated like shit cause they know if you step away they will sell the car anyway, and they are getting away with such crap customer service..

Exactly, everything has been signed already.... and i've gone thru so much already that walking out (i'm sure i can canel anything/everything that has been signed... since the dealership didn't provide the vehicle to me in the proper state) would just give me a bigger headache... i called corporate and got a case# ... im being told i have to call the local customer service experience manager... and she'll handle it from there...

Regarding asking them to give me the vehicle as is... they refused originally because they first said the engine costs 16K (i hardly doubt so...) and letting me go w/ the car in those conditions would mean they are totally liable if the engine f*cks up over the long run.... they are not taking those chances they said.... and obviously the paperwork hasn't cleared yet.. so technically they still 'own' the vehicle.... and my credit was ran.. such PAIN!!

[Lytheum]

the gas shouldnt be a deal breaker! if you follow the manual and keep it under 4000rpms for the break in it shouldnt matter what gas is in there.

i say go get the car and just burn it off driving normally around town.

[FRomar-S]

Originally Posted by chessplaya2010

they refused originally because they first said the engine costs 16K (i hardly doubt so...) and letting me go w/ the car in those conditions would mean they are totally liable if the engine f*cks up over the long run.... they are not taking those chances they said.... and obviously the paperwork hasn't cleared yet.. so technically they still 'own' the vehicle.... and my credit was ran.. such PAIN!!

Ugh figured they would say something like that. I guess it is for the best though, because if you take it early and anything happens to the car, they will blame you and try not to cover it.

As long as you are okay with your monthly payments, thats all that matters. You will love the car, and these stressors will be forgotten! Again, something like mud flaps, wheel locks, oil changes, maybe a spoiler, gas card, or hell maybe you could squeeze them for a detail job (private not their own) which would be great

[chipz91]

Originally Posted by chessplaya2010

Need some advice... last thursday i got the call to pick up my fr-s... i had already advise the dealership that i'd be trading a 2010 TC @ 50K mi ... but they never did the appraisal... i got there @ 5pm ... i left by 10:30 w/o my FR-S they were only offering me 7500 for my TC because they said it had too many scratches it would need a complete paint job (total BS) they knew i wanted the FR-S as i had ordered it and put down a 1k deposit... they thought i wouldn't leave and just take the 7500.... i still owed 10k on the tc so i fought hard and returned the next day i convinced them to give me wash out... after several hours of arguing... they agreed ... so they would give me the 10k i owed for tc and finance the FR-S.. at least i'd get the tax break for the trade in... w.e. now.. i'm all excited and right as i'm leaving on Friday... ( i had moved the few items i had on my TC over the FR-S already) .. i noticed a half-full tank so i asked... the rep to fill it up for me.. and he goes.. sure.. 10 mins later he comes back... full tank... and i asked just for the heck (as i thought they would know..) "you put premium right" ... the rep goes.. "nah.. just regular... we dont have premium here... " ... i replied "this car doesn't take regular..." he goes.. "yes it does... we filled it up w/ regular ever since we got it..." i went back to talk to the manager... they obviously agreed w/ me and considered it a big F**K up on their part... (not training employees correctly) so they told me they needed to keep the car over the weekend to empty the gas tank and do some extra checks to make sure the engine wasn't damaged... so i was told right then and there that i woudn't have it until Monday (today).... he apologized a thousands times and told me to think of some sort of compensation gift and he would ararnge for it.... the manager never gave a price range.. so i dont know what to ask for in compensation... any ideas ?????

sorry for the long store.. but it's been an ardeous journey dealing w/ this stealership!! i'd appreciate the feedback....

Dude thats Terrible.. :/
What Dealership was this at?

[ed209]

jesus. there is enough idiocy running rampant on this forum to make someone sick. the car will run ABSOLUTELY fine on 87, the ecu will just pull a little ignition timing to compensate. this isn't the 1980's anymore...

[reeves]

Originally Posted by chessplaya2010

Exactly, everything has been signed already.... and i've gone thru so much already that walking out (i'm sure i can canel anything/everything that has been signed... since the dealership didn't provide the vehicle to me in the proper state) would just give me a bigger headache..

Hope this somehow ends well for you. Personally, I would just walk out/cancel it. I wouldn't want to give any dealership that causes me this much stress my hard-earned money.. even if they didn't technically "harm" your car.

[deucethemoose]

Yeah... I would have just taken the car and driven it under 4K and just dealt with the few days of 87 octane OR syphoned out the gas and used it in another car. No need to leave it at the dealer for them to deal with how they please.

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by ed209

jesus. there is enough idiocy running rampant on this forum to make someone sick. the car will run ABSOLUTELY fine on 87, the ecu will just pull a little ignition timing to compensate. this isn't the 1980's anymore...

Please, when you get an FR-S, feel free to fill it only with regular-grade gasoline (87). We'll see how long it lasts.

One tank won't hurt it. The car is designed for higher octane (at least 91). Using lower grade gasoline consistently will eventually gum up the works and cause you to have to replace parts and fix things earlier. Yes, the engine can retard the timing to attempt to prevent knocking, but the car will suffer both in power and longevity. Numerous experts have weighed in on this.