GR86 In R7 of the Toyota Gazoo Racing GT Cup + GR86 coming to Grand Turismo Sport

[mazeroni]

[mazeroni]

2017 GT86 vs 2022 GR86 (they have the years labeled incorrectly)

0-60: 7.27s / 6.62s -- + 0.65s
0-100: 18.85s / 15.88s -- + 2.97s
1/4: 15.62s @ 90 / 14.73s @ 95 -- + 0.89s @ 5mph
1 KM: 28.25s @ 118 / 26.67s @ 126 -- + 1.58s @ 8mph
1 Mile: 38.92s @ 130 / 36.90s @ 140 -- + 2.02s @ 10mph

Will be interesting to see if these match up to the real world. The 0-60 for the 2022 GR86 in the game seems slower than what Toyota has been quoting, but there are notable improvements considering the relatively low power gains - more top end would help but that isn't how they tuned the engine; I'm assuming it might be a tad faster in the real world, but probably not by that much.

*** P.S. The trunk looks to be the same size. I recall there being some discussion about it shrinking, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

[Blighty]

The game is using the final drive of 4.1 for the new car, using the same gear ratios from the og model.

I customised it to run at the 4.3 ratio with exact same gearing at the 16+ model (going custom messes with them all so you have to configure it all separately after setting a max speed), and apart from the custom whine and the clear improvement in gear change time, I got to admit it feel a lit more like it should sit at 4.3!

I wish I could just change the gears instead having to install a full sequential gearbox so I could compare them better.

But yeah, its excellent.

Its just a game, but boy it felt right there.

[Blighty]

This guy buys the car and instantly pull a 8:12.12 run on the ring.

Thats a very decent time on Sports Hard tires.

[mazeroni]

Originally Posted by Blighty

The game is using the final drive of 4.1 for the new car, using the same gear ratios from the og model.

I customised it to run at the 4.3 ratio with exact same gearing at the 16+ model (going custom messes with them all so you have to configure it all separately after setting a max speed), and apart from the custom whine and the clear improvement in gear change time, I got to admit it feel a lit more like it should sit at 4.3!

I wish I could just change the gears instead having to install a full sequential gearbox so I could compare them better.

But yeah, its excellent.

Its just a game, but boy it felt right there.

It's not likely they messed up the ratios in the game, right? We are probably looking at 4.1 gearing for the production model.

[Blighty]

Originally Posted by mazeroni

It's not likely they messed up the ratios in the game, right? We are probably looking at 4.1 gearing for the production model.

Correct.

[Dirty Harry]

Originally Posted by mazeroni

It's not likely they messed up the ratios in the game, right? We are probably looking at 4.1 gearing for the production model.

It makes sense they’d go back to that for fuel economy/emissions reasons too I guess.

[Sasquachulator]

nobody with this game wants to showcase all the colours for us to see?

[SexyPirates]

Originally Posted by Blighty

This guy buys the car and instantly pull a 8:12.12 run on the ring.

Thats a very decent time on Sports Hard tires.

I tried this track for the first time in Project Cars 2 and got 10:30

[timurrrr]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

nobody with this game wants to showcase all the colours for us to see?

Done already, see the "Which color will you be getting?" thread.

Also, in this very video at 0:20

[Lantanafrs2]

I thought someone from Toyota said they stayed with the 4.3?

[nextcar]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

I thought someone from Toyota said they stayed with the 4.3?

So much conflicting info... compression ratio, gear ratio, steering ratio, etc.

Long ago I resigned myself to the fact that for reasons unknown Subaru and Toyota are both withholding the facts even though the cars are announced and have been shown publicly.

I personally gave up caring about the numbers, I just want an opportunity to drive one to see whether or not it makes me smile. Nothing else really matters. I find it mildly amusing that people are making an effort to draw conclusions from video games!

Obligatory bot reference: find the truth

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by nextcar

I personally gave up caring about the numbers, I just want an opportunity to drive one to see whether or not it makes me smile. Nothing else really matters. I find it mildly amusing that people are making an effort to draw conclusions from video games!

This is really it for me. The numbers don’t really matter if the car is fun.

That said, Gran turismo gave me a great idea of how the car handles compared to the outgoing model, it feels really close. But a bit faster.

[Blighty]

Originally Posted by nextcar

So much conflicting info... compression ratio, gear ratio, steering ratio, etc.

Long ago I resigned myself to the fact that for reasons unknown Subaru and Toyota are both withholding the facts even though the cars are announced and have been shown publicly.

I personally gave up caring about the numbers, I just want an opportunity to drive one to see whether or not it makes me smile. Nothing else really matters. I find it mildly amusing that people are making an effort to draw conclusions from video games!

Its like drawing conclusions from anything official or officially licensed until it comes out. It could be wrong, but usually they are right.

I wouldnt expect the makers of Gran Turismo to get things like the specs wrong. So the final drive is highly likely to be 4.1

What they will certainly not be accurate in is the simulation of how the car drives - its just an approximation fit into a physics system they have.

It sure is fun and cool as fuck to drive the car around some tracks though

And the liveries that people have put out already - excellent.