Toyota GR86 will arrive in Europe and other markets after all? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

gymratter · 11-13-2020, 12:21 PM

https://www.actualidadmotor.com/conf...gara-a-europa/

the fake news said this was taken at yesterdays presentation for the GR Yaris. the only thing i can find to collaborate the Yaris event.

Tokay444 · 11-13-2020, 12:29 PM

That's just new nomenclature for GT.

daiheadjai · 11-13-2020, 01:52 PM

Nah, Toyota's just doing what they can to help Europe's flagging birth rates

Tcoat · 11-13-2020, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokay444

That's just new nomenclature for GT.

Not sure I am a fan of using it for all the models. If they have special input from GR, for a special version, with special GR gofast parts (like the Yaris) then OK it is a GR edition. If they are going to just slap GR on all versions (like they have with the Supra) it is a meaningless marketing ploy.

Ohio Enthusiast · 11-13-2020, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Not sure I am a fan of using it for all the models... If they are going to just slap GR on all versions (like they have with the Supra) it is a meaningless marketing ploy.

So kinda like BMW M? And Mercedes AMG? Cadillac V? Audi S-Line? Hyundai N-Line? Ford ST-Line? Damn, even ST (coming from a FoST, I have a soft spot for the ST badge)! It would be nice to have a manufacturer actually hold on to their integrity in the face of marketing, but somehow I doubt we'll ever see it again.

On the other hand, Toyota using GR only for the sporty lineup is almost saintly by today's standard. So long as there's no GR Sienna, I'll give them a star for the effort.

C4RBON · 11-13-2020, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast

So kinda like BMW M? And Mercedes AMG? Cadillac V? Audi S-Line? Hyundai N-Line? Ford ST-Line? Damn, even ST (coming from a FoST, I have a soft spot for the ST badge)! It would be nice to have a manufacturer actually hold on to their integrity in the face of marketing, but somehow I doubt we'll ever see it again.

On the other hand, Toyota using GR only for the sporty lineup is almost saintly by today's standard. So long as there's no GR Sienna, I'll give them a star for the effort.

That's what TRD is for!

Tcoat · 11-13-2020, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast

So long as there's no GR Sienna, I'll give them a star for the effort.

Yep As an old school Mopar guy this abomination to nature makes me scream every time I see one.

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Originally Posted by C4RBON

That's what TRD is for!

Yes. GR should be an actual RACE edition not just a badge on all of them.

soundman98 · 11-13-2020, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Not sure I am a fan of using it for all the models. If they have special input from GR, for a special version, with special GR gofast parts (like the Yaris) then OK it is a GR edition. If they are going to just slap GR on all versions (like they have with the Supra) it is a meaningless marketing ploy.

C4RBON · 11-13-2020, 09:00 PM

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Yes. GR should be an actual RACE edition not just a badge on all of them.

I can't help but think there was some disagreement/infighting within Toyota on what TRD is used for. It was hijacked by North America marketing for NASCAR and trucks, and the Toyota mothership was not pleased. Now we have two performance divisions.

Tcoat · 11-13-2020, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98

This sums up my opinion perfectly!

Tcoat · 11-13-2020, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by C4RBON

I can't help but think there was some disagreement/infighting within Toyota on what TRD is used for. It was hijacked by North America marketing for NASCAR and trucks, and the Toyota mothership was not pleased. Now we have two performance divisions.

The GR Yaris is a good use of the GR badge. It surpasses what you would normally see from TRD.
The GR badge on a base Supra (as good as the car may be) or 86 is just deception at it's finest.

JD001 · 11-14-2020, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Not sure I am a fan of using it for all the models. If they have special input from GR, for a special version, with special GR gofast parts (like the Yaris) then OK it is a GR edition. If they are going to just slap GR on all versions (like they have with the Supra) it is a meaningless marketing ploy.

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Originally Posted by C4RBON

That's what TRD is for!

I just can't get past 'TRD' reading "TuRD".. no idea why but I have this association.. GR is harmless although Gazoo is too much like Yazoo (80s electronic band and a milk drink)...

Tcoat · 11-14-2020, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JD001

I just can't get past 'TRD' reading "TuRD".. no idea why but I have this association.. GR is harmless although Gazoo is too much like Yazoo (80s electronic band and a milk drink)...

I have never associated TRD with anything but Gazoo was horrible.

ZDan · 11-14-2020, 10:11 AM

I'm a fan of no extra names/emblems/badging for "hot" versions of cars.

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