If there is no Toyota will you go with Scion or Subaru

[ryun84]

I chose Subaru. I really hoped to upgrade from a Scion to Toyota, but if that's not possible, Subaru will do. Can't take much more of these anti-Scion comments. So demoralizing. Makes me just want to crash my car sometimes.

[Giccin]

Originally Posted by ryun84

I chose Subaru. I really hoped to upgrade from a Scion to Toyota, but if that's not possible, Subaru will do. Can't take much more of these anti-Scion comments. So demoralizing. Makes me just want to crash my car sometimes.

O_O!


Obviously toyota doesn't realize that making a 10-15% Profit from each toyota branded FT-86 is better than nothing; however, I guess its OK for them to give all the profits to Subaru since they're going to give the FT-86 to Scion.

[Fortunate Few]

I originally wanted the subaru but the toyota was looking good. But now that toyota might be out of the question im still up for a subaru.

[Macavely]

For me is simple.. My uncle works at a Toyota Dealership.. I'm on my third Toyota car right now..(Scion = Toyota) ..So Soon it looks like I will have my 4th Toyota car.

[matadormi5]

Currently, I'm more interested in the Subaru, but only because we have no idea what it's going to look like or how it's going to be priced. The mystery is always more intriguing.

[Kage]

Depends on what the scion looks like, the subaru looks like, performance/weight differences, options, interiors etc.

[Matador]

Scion = One spec, no options, no trim levels.

Kiss goodbye to a;
Toyota ft-86 turbo
Toyota ft-86 track spec
Toyota ft-86 targa/drop top

... and hello to;

"LSD is a dealer installed option, you'll have to pay extra for that"

[Macavely]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Scion = One spec, no options, no trim levels.

Kiss goodbye to a;
Toyota ft-86 turbo
Toyota ft-86 track spec
Toyota ft-86 targa/drop top

... and hello to;

"LSD is a dealer installed option, you'll have to pay extra for that"

but wouldn't you have to pay extra for that anyway if it was factory installed and came out as the FT-86 ? .. And Scion has been really good at loading either car with Slandered stuff that. on the Toyota Lines are options ..

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Scion = One spec, no options, no trim levels.

Kiss goodbye to a;
Toyota ft-86 turbo
Toyota ft-86 track spec
Toyota ft-86 targa/drop top

... and hello to;

"LSD is a dealer installed option, you'll have to pay extra for that"

Yup. Exactly my point as well. This is the main reason I don't want to see it as a Scion over a Toyota.

[john]

Subaru, no doubt.

[matadormi5]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Scion = One spec, no options, no trim levels.

Kiss goodbye to a;
Toyota ft-86 turbo
Toyota ft-86 track spec
Toyota ft-86 targa/drop top

Why couldn't those just come as special editions?
Scion loves releasing special edition "release series."

Track edition? etc. etc.

Also, a fair amount of manufacturers consider a convertible version a completely different vehicle, not a trim.
So they could always release a 86 covert/targa under a different name or just stick "convertible" onto the name and it's a whole new model.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by matadormi5

Why couldn't those just come as special editions?
Scion loves releasing special edition "release series."

Track edition? etc. etc.

Also, a fair amount of manufacturers consider a convertible version a completely different vehicle, not a trim.
So they could always release a 86 covert/targa under a different name or just stick "convertible" onto the name and it's a whole new model.

I remember one tC edition has got a gay color. Is that what you're talking about? and Oh there is no performance upgrade for that edition.

[enc0re]

Easy choice. Local Toyota dealership has great service, with prices comparable to independent shops. Local Subie dealership is below average to bad.

Maybe we can hope for a Release Series with a panda paint job?

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Scion = One spec, no options, no trim levels.

Kiss goodbye to a;
Toyota ft-86 turbo
Toyota ft-86 track spec
Toyota ft-86 targa/drop top

... and hello to;

"LSD is a dealer installed option, you'll have to pay extra for that"

This hold's little ground Matador, as the 'better trim options' it would have as a Toyota would drive the MSRP up anyways. I look at it like this.
Salesman: "Well, we have the FT-86 GT-S trim, it comes with features over the base such as LSD, leather shift knob / steering wheel, foglights, aero ground effects body kit, stiffer suspension, heated power driver and passenger seats-"

"Wait, I just want the LSD and the stiffer suspension, everything else can be taken off and lower the price right?"

Salesman: "...."

In that sense that's what makes Scion more of a 'tuners' brand...you can pick what you want on the car off the lot, and save the rest for your eventual swapping. In this case, my FT-86 wouldn't need the leather wheel/ shift knob because I plan on using the shift knob out of a 1980 Celica I picked up (its so ballla) and probably a Nardi wheel, and I definitely don't want the power seats because in the long run more suitable bucket's will be put in...all the extra "features" in the higher trim model that I don't want to pay for but HAVE to. In my example this is pretty similar to how Toyota does its trim models...even one higher than base will have extra shit I honestly don't want to pay for.

As much as it pains me to be defending Scion, it does have -some- bonuses for how it does it's business.