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Misfit714 · 09-30-2020, 02:14 AM

after installing rear lca, bags, spacers, wheels and getting 4-5 alignments even with me sitting in the car holding the steering wheel straight the alignment shows everything in range to be perfectly straight. After leaving the alignment shop everytime the steering wheel would be off centered so I would have to hold my steering wheel a bit to the left to go straight or else while holding it straight it would veer to the right. Also, after going 60-70 mph my car feels like its swaying left and right so I would have to drive with both hands with caution. I can't figure out the problem. Any thing to look out for? Thanks in advance for any advice.

soundman98 · 09-30-2020, 02:23 AM

How are your tire pressures?

churchx · 09-30-2020, 02:36 AM

I doubt pressures due "getting 4-5 alignments" & "after leaving the alignment shop". Start of alignment procedure should include checking & evening out tire pressures. Also alignment should include centering steering wheel.
So i'm guessing that it's maybe not alignment, but something dragging wheel(wheels?) on one side or making applying engine power to one wheel. Do all four wheels spin freely, with no brake drag? None was abnormally hot after driving? Hmm, maybe something fscked up with LSD diff?

Misfit714 · 09-30-2020, 02:51 AM

yeah everything is balanced and tires are correct pressure. Wheels do spin freely and my car drives with no hotness. Just steering wheel is off centered even after multiple alignments. Car always feels like swaying left to right after 60 mph

x808drifter · 09-30-2020, 02:54 AM

This thread is useless without an alignment printout.

strat61caster · 09-30-2020, 11:01 AM

Go to a better alignment shop.

You'll be receiving my invoice shortly.

ZDan · 09-30-2020, 12:49 PM

Is behavior the same whether you are on the left side of road crown or right side of road crown? If so, swap tires left to right and see if that changes anything. If it does, you *might* have a bad tire causing the car to pull in the same direction as the side the bad tire is on.

norcalpb · 09-30-2020, 01:06 PM

Could be bad tie rods. When mine were bad it was hard to keep the car straight on the freeway going 70+, and whenever I hit a bump the car would get dragged in the direction of the bump.

Hard to believe your alignment shop wouldn’t notice this though.

JD001 · 09-30-2020, 01:11 PM

I had a similar issue last year, turned out to be the toe settings. The steering was out just a small amount, no swaying as you describe but the steering wheel wasn't straight when the car was running in a straight line.. just annoying to look at..

NoHaveMSG · 09-30-2020, 01:39 PM

Are you driving the car at the same ride height the car was aligned at? You are on bags, changing ride height changes the alignment.

Misfit714 · 09-30-2020, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

Are you driving the car at the same ride height the car was aligned at? You are on bags, changing ride height changes the alignment.

yeah I aligned my car with the ride height at the current psi that my car would be at.

Misfit714 · 09-30-2020, 06:55 PM

The car rode fine on stock suspension it was just the minute I swapped to bags that I had issues. I'll try to post my alignment specs !

Quote:

Originally Posted by norcalpb

Could be bad tie rods. When mine were bad it was hard to keep the car straight on the freeway going 70+, and whenever I hit a bump the car would get dragged in the direction of the bump.

Hard to believe your alignment shop wouldn’t notice this though.

soundman98 · 10-01-2020, 12:30 AM

somethings got to be loose, i'd be checking ball joints and wear points on strut assemblies.

09-30-2020, 02:14 AM	#1
Misfit714 Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Drives: BRZ Location: Socal Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Need all your professional input please! after installing rear lca, bags, spacers, wheels and getting 4-5 alignments even with me sitting in the car holding the steering wheel straight the alignment shows everything in range to be perfectly straight. After leaving the alignment shop everytime the steering wheel would be off centered so I would have to hold my steering wheel a bit to the left to go straight or else while holding it straight it would veer to the right. Also, after going 60-70 mph my car feels like its swaying left and right so I would have to drive with both hands with caution. I can't figure out the problem. Any thing to look out for? Thanks in advance for any advice.

09-30-2020, 02:23 AM	#2
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soundman98 ProCrastinationConsultant Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: '14 Ranger, '18 Tacoma 4Dr LB Location: chicago-ish Posts: 11,330 Thanks: 35,240 Thanked 13,675 Times in 6,782 Posts Mentioned: 98 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	somethings got to be loose, i'd be checking ball joints and wear points on strut assemblies. __________________ "The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time"

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churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,334 Thanks: 698 Thanked 2,086 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I doubt pressures due "getting 4-5 alignments" & "after leaving the alignment shop". Start of alignment procedure should include checking & evening out tire pressures. Also alignment should include centering steering wheel. So i'm guessing that it's maybe not alignment, but something dragging wheel(wheels?) on one side or making applying engine power to one wheel. Do all four wheels spin freely, with no brake drag? None was abnormally hot after driving? Hmm, maybe something fscked up with LSD diff?

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Misfit714 Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Drives: BRZ Location: Socal Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	yeah everything is balanced and tires are correct pressure. Wheels do spin freely and my car drives with no hotness. Just steering wheel is off centered even after multiple alignments. Car always feels like swaying left to right after 60 mph

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x808drifter LMGTFY Join Date: Mar 2016 Drives: 13 FRS, 91 Miata Location: Lava Town, HI Posts: 2,776 Thanks: 5,561 Thanked 3,650 Times in 1,625 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This thread is useless without an alignment printout.

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ZDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: '23 BRZ Location: Providence, RI Posts: 4,672 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,011 Times in 2,097 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is behavior the same whether you are on the left side of road crown or right side of road crown? If so, swap tires left to right and see if that changes anything. If it does, you might have a bad tire causing the car to pull in the same direction as the side the bad tire is on.

09-30-2020, 01:06 PM	#8
norcalpb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ, 2023 Model 3 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 2,345 Thanks: 1,256 Thanked 902 Times in 590 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Could be bad tie rods. When mine were bad it was hard to keep the car straight on the freeway going 70+, and whenever I hit a bump the car would get dragged in the direction of the bump. Hard to believe your alignment shop wouldn’t notice this though.

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JD001 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: Subaru BRZ Location: UK Posts: 6,261 Thanks: 7,980 Thanked 6,500 Times in 3,638 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I had a similar issue last year, turned out to be the toe settings. The steering was out just a small amount, no swaying as you describe but the steering wheel wasn't straight when the car was running in a straight line.. just annoying to look at..

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