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Old 07-18-2012, 04:08 PM   #71
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where did i get this?

i got this from the 370+ thread on engine chirping in the engine/tuning sub-forum

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9836

where have YOU been

as for ethanol causing or not causing damage, i'm not going to get into it because i'm not a chemist, but the owners manual specifically says not to use it, so you can do whatever, but i'm switching back to shell (been a custom all my driving life).
The owners manual (6-1) says not to use gas containing more than 10%. As I mentioned previously I doubt they use 10%... & Since Subaru's engineers would have accounted for Ethanol in gas I will stick with my position that 10% ethanol gas isn't so bad.

Not to mention Ethanol has been in our gasoline since... 1999? Maybe before that?

Again... hard to believe Ethanol could cause this. Then again people switching to Shell seem to get rid of the chirping. Will give it ago as soon as I need to fill up.
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Old 07-18-2012, 04:12 PM   #72
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so using v power is a good thing correct

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Huh? Where did you read this?

Almost all gas in NA contains up to 10% ethanol. I can't imagine ethanol causing any damage to the car. And TBH the 10% is a catchall number, I would guess it is much lower then that.

No where in the owners manual does it say not to use fuels with ethanol mix. Most gas in Cali has 10% ethanol no?

And 93 or higher is recommended according to the manual - but it does state that 91 will run without detriment to engine durability or driveability.

Again: Fuel used should not have any effect on the vehical so long as you are using 91+.

At the end of the day however, there are two gases you should use.
1) Petro 94
2) Shell VPower 91 (not the regular 91, the 1 with zero ethanol).

Personally I use Petro 94 because it is widely available to me whereas Shell is a little out of the way.
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:03 PM   #73
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The owners manual (6-1) says not to use gas containing more than 10%. As I mentioned previously I doubt they use 10%... & Since Subaru's engineers would have accounted for Ethanol in gas I will stick with my position that 10% ethanol gas isn't so bad.

Not to mention Ethanol has been in our gasoline since... 1999? Maybe before that?

Again... hard to believe Ethanol could cause this. Then again people switching to Shell seem to get rid of the chirping. Will give it ago as soon as I need to fill up.
the manual also says that you have to run 93 but can make due with 91

like i said, you do what you want, i don't know why you're so combative

people are getting good results with Shell Vpower 91 after switching from Petrocan 94 (previously known as ultramar).

so whatever bro
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:54 PM   #74
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so using v power is a good thing correct
Yup.

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the manual also says that you have to run 93 but can make due with 91

like i said, you do what you want, i don't know why you're so combative

people are getting good results with Shell Vpower 91 after switching from Petrocan 94 (previously known as ultramar).

so whatever bro
Not being combative LOL... I just have too many Petro Points saved up from when my car had a tune for 94! Don't want to change to Shell and loose em points haha.

I'll try Shell Vpower & report tomorrow.
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the manual also says that you have to run 93 but can make due with 91

like i said, you do what you want, i don't know why you're so combative

people are getting good results with Shell Vpower 91 after switching from Petrocan 94 (previously known as ultramar).

so whatever bro

You mean Sonoco. Petro-Canada bought it off
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:48 AM   #76
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You mean Sonoco. Petro-Canada bought it off
right you are, i was thinking of the word "ultra", god damn you branding!
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So far from what I've gathered, most people distrust ethanol in their engines even though Subaru and Toyota both said its fine.

Once/When I get my FR-S I'm likely going to to filling up with 94 at Petro Canada unless there is some concrete proof of engine breaking. More octane is better than less anyways, hell my uncle has put airplane fuel into his jet ski before and that was a fun weekend.
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right you are, i was thinking of the word "ultra", god damn you branding!


:P only reason I know is because there was sonoco. Where I live. And since it's change to petro Canada I feel like that the gas is crap but can just be me thats over thinking it and gas is gas...
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I think you are all crazy. 94 Petro and 91 Shell are the two best available to us in Toronto. They will both work fine in the BRZ and FRS.

If you don't think so move to Vancouver. 94 Chevron no ethanol.
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http://www.toptiergas.com

I was just looking at that if anyone was interested.

Has well ill let get the quote from petro Canada but

There 87= 10% ethanol
There 89 = 5% ethanol
There 91 = 0% ethanol
There 94= 10% ethanol

I know that they use ethanol in the 94 works has a octane booster but still kind of strange
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Shell 91 = 0% Ethanol = AIRMILE POINTS x 3-102391039
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Shell 91 = 0% Ethanol = AIRMILE POINTS x 3-102391039
Don't forget the cash-back mastercard 1.5% off
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Don't forget the cash-back mastercard 1.5% off
Really? :o

I might look into that, even if it's that little... could be just for gas.

I'm using visa 1% rebate for everything.



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  • A full 2% cash back on eligible drug store purchases and recurring bill payments1
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I didnt know this was a rewards thread.
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