You just wait...

[Atmo]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Well if you see a bunch of pickup trucks careening down the road because they have no brakes you know we didn't make it through.

Sounds like a typical day around here. That's why they have gravel runoff areas on the downhill side of the mountain.

[Atmo]

Not sure where to post this, but it was a nice surprise given that the WA governor may not have approved reopening yet.


"Back to work for 27,000 Boeing Commercial Airplanes workers starting next week."


https://q13fox.com/2020/04/16/back-t...ing-next-week/

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Atmo

This explains why I like Canadian beer. Please have another. Like I've said before, you make me laugh!

It's OK, I understand why you're stuck in middle management with time to spare unconcerned with advancement beyond time in grade and pension vesting. We need drones to carry out the mundane tasks pretending to be important under the guise of "we're in this together".

Now, THAT ain't being nice -

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

You are vastly in the minority with those statements alone, your families support, even with just decent guidance to get you where you are if not the capability to act as an outright safety net easily puts you into very small percentage who will weather this storm with minimal negative impacts.

Do you realize that less than 10% of US households bring in over $120k per year? <5% bring home >$200k, and even people bringing in that kind of money dig themselves into financial holes and will be battered by this economic turn.

Yeah, but you know how it is living in the SF Bay Area; you could make $120k/year and you couldn’t afford to buy or rent a 500 square foot house without eating beans and rice, and contributing nothing to savings. National averages don’t really count much. Like a $15 minimum wage is the goal as a “living wage” in the county, but that is laughable in this area.

There are areas where the average home is over a million dollars and places where the average home is under a hundred thousand dollars. The $120k income and $12k income share the same discrepancy with those different home prices, but that $120k income is paying a fair more in taxes, so yeah, it is relative.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gob...-by-state/amp/

[humfrz]

Like they said in the movie "it's a big shit sandwich and we are all going to have to take a bite of it" or something like that -

[Atmo]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Now, THAT ain't being nice -

No worries, we've been sniping all night and don't think either of us take anything seriously.

Except Canadian beer worth the trip to Vancouver (along with the sushi) alone.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Atmo

No worries, we've been sniping all night and don't think either of us take anything seriously.

Except Canadian beer worth the trip to Vancouver (along with the sushi) alone.

I take the debate seriously but do like a good battle.
The sniping part is just for fun if the other person can take it.
If I actually get annoyed I just shut up and go away.

[humfrz]

Well, I think the world will survive this virus.

When I was a young boy my mother would show me pictures of what some of the world looked like - London, Berlin, Tokyo and Hiroshima for examples. Yes, only my mother showed me because my father was over there somewhere in the middle of it.

The worlds infrastructure hasn't been destroyed this time so, if we pulled through that, I reckon we will pull through this.

[soundman98]

I believe the great disney quote is "As long as we have internet, we can make it!" Or something

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Well, I think the world will survive this virus.

When I was a young boy my mother would show me pictures of what some of the world looked like - London, Berlin, Tokyo and Hiroshima for examples. Yes, only my mother showed me because my father was over there somewhere in the middle of it.

The worlds infrastructure hasn't been destroyed this time so, if we pulled through that, I reckon we will pull through this.

The worlds infrastructure wasn't destroyed then either. Those events turned the USA from a backwards (compared to Europe at the time), isolationist, impoverished nation to what it is today. Industry made a killing from your examples.

Need I remind you of what proceeded those events?







I know it appears that I am preaching doomsday. I am not. I am just attempting to express that things are no longer going to be what they were. You of all people should understand that since you saw the stone tool makers lose their jobs to bronze!

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

You of all people should understand that since you saw the stone tool makers lose their jobs to bronze!

Can't really blame him for losing perspective with all the global tragedies he's witnessed.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Can't really blame him for losing perspective with all the global tragedies he's witnessed.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

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[Pouncer]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

You live a very privileged life if you think that the people who are most vulnerable are happy that their deferred rent doesn't have interest associated. They're not bringing in any income for the foreseeable future, if they're lucky unemployment fully covers them, but in many places it won't, take California for example, maximum benefit is $450 a week, imagine you're bad with money and you don't have savings and you can't get a job for 4 months (it took me 6 months last year), can you make rent and put food on your table if all of your deferred payments are due in July on $450 a week? I know I couldn't and I had a below market place shared with 3 other people, thankfully ample savings, living below my means, and a generous severance package meant that 6 months of unemployment was a minor hiccup in my life.

Stimulus phase 2 added $600/week to unemployment, so it’s now $1,050/week in California.

Originally Posted by soundman98

start looking up who supplies them. i think you'll quickly find that they get many parts from many of the same places...

Actually, Tesla has a very limited list of suppliers. They design and build most of their parts in-house, up to and including the seats. This allows them to consolidate and dramatically reduce part counts, with things like their superbottle consolidating all the cooling systems into one, and their development work on a unified wiring harness to reduce the total length of wires required from over a mile to just a few hundred feet.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The worlds infrastructure wasn't destroyed then either. Those events turned the USA from a backwards (compared to Europe at the time), isolationist, impoverished nation to what it is today. Industry made a killing from your examples.

Sigh… The US has been the world’s largest economy since 1871 – it’s not an outgrowth of WWII. There’s a reason why our infantry divisions in that war were all mechanized while most of Germany’s marched on foot and relied on horse-drawn carts for transport.

Not to say the coming months (and possibly years) won’t be bad, or that your observations of the automotive industry in particular are incorrect, but people do need to have some perspective… and stop voting for the anti-science, anti-government, anti-environment, anti-healthcare, anti-immigrant, anti-competence party – unless their intent is to flush this country down the toilet altogether.