Just ordered PTuning Flex Fuel Kit now what?

[Celigts]

Greetings,

Purchased the PTUNING Flex Fuel Kit v2
I've never tuned the car.
Stock EVERYTHING except for a
Catback Exhaust +
HKS drop in air filter +
Stage 1 Exedy Clutch

I would have pulled the trigger on the PTUNING Header but they were out of stock ...

Goals are E85 obviously...
More power...

How much is a Tune going to run me? (roundabout figure)
(I don't have ecutek stuffs)

Should I buy Injectors? Which kind? CC's?
Oil Change?
Fuel pump?
What header?
Overpipe/frontpipe?

Seems like the majority of people on the forums are using the OFT tunes for E85 so most of the posts are geared towards OFT.

Seeking assistance

Thanks!

[EndlessAzure]

Originally Posted by Celigts

Greetings,

Purchased the PTUNING Flex Fuel Kit v2
I've never tuned the car.
Stock EVERYTHING except for a
Catback Exhaust +
HKS drop in air filter +
Stage 1 Exedy Clutch

I would have pulled the trigger on the PTUNING Header but they were out of stock ...

Goals are E85 obviously...
More power...

How much is a Tune going to run me? (roundabout figure)
(I don't have ecutek stuffs)

Should I buy Injectors? Which kind? CC's?
Oil Change?
Fuel pump?
What header?
Overpipe/frontpipe?

Seems like the majority of people on the forums are using the OFT tunes for E85 so most of the posts are geared towards OFT.

Seeking assistance

Thanks!

EcuTek Dongle + Deskey: $350 New
EcuTek License: $350
Stage 1 Base Tune /w Flex Fuel (a.k.a. "Digital Tune"): $300
Custom Dyno Tune (Optional): Add $600 to Base

Minimum total: $1000 All New. Up to $1500 if you want to go to a shop for a custom Dyno Tune

You don't need Fuel Pump and Injectors unless you're going Forced Induction.

Nothing has to change regarding Oil. Just use API SN /w Resource Conservation or better oil for updated ethanol compatibility.

Headers, depends on you. How you want the car to sound, how much you want to spend, what performance goals are you looking for.

OP/FP. Similar to headers.

[Celigts]

Originally Posted by EndlessAzure

EcuTek Dongle + Deskey: $350 New
EcuTek License: $350
Stage 1 Base Tune /w Flex Fuel (a.k.a. "Digital Tune"): $300
Custom Dyno Tune (Optional): Add $600 to Base

Minimum total: $1000 All New. Up to $1500 if you want to go to a shop for a custom Dyno Tune

You don't need Fuel Pump and Injectors unless you're going Forced Induction.

Nothing has to change regarding Oil. Just use API SN /w Resource Conservation or better oil for updated ethanol compatibility.

Headers, depends on you. How you want the car to sound, how much you want to spend, what performance goals are you looking for.

OP/FP. Similar to headers.

Much appreciated.
Good to know I won't be needing to shell out extra money for a fuel pump and injectors...

You're saying API SN with Resource Conservation ?? #Confused what is this?

Also, I've never even ventured into the world of Ecutek.
EcuTek Dongle + Deskey: $350 New
EcuTek License: $350
Stage 1 Base Tune /w Flex Fuel (a.k.a. "Digital Tune"): $300

This option you're mentioning is a do-it-yourself tune using a labtop I'd assume?

#noobcity

[EndlessAzure]

Originally Posted by Celigts

Much appreciated.
Good to know I won't be needing to shell out extra money for a fuel pump and injectors...

You're saying API SN with Resource Conservation ?? #Confused what is this?

This is the specification grade of the oil. The standards to which it was manufactured. https://www.api.org/products-and-ser...lassifications

For example, if you buy Castrol Edge 0W20 off the shelf today, it would conform to API SN. https://www.castrol.com/en_us/united...trol-edge.html

Originally Posted by Celigts

Also, I've never even ventured into the world of Ecutek.
EcuTek Dongle + Deskey: $350 New
EcuTek License: $350
Stage 1 Base Tune /w Flex Fuel (a.k.a. "Digital Tune"): $300

This option you're mentioning is a do-it-yourself tune using a labtop I'd assume?

#noobcity

Yes, if you wanted to have all of the tools infront of you without showing-up at a shop, you would need the listed as a minimum. You would flash the ECU youself and load a tune file you buy from a shop.

All the dongle+Deskey does is allows you to interface with the car.

You can borrow someone's dongle if you want to save $350. You still need your own license. Sometimes, tunes are locked to a specific dongle as well.

You can go to a shop and use their dongle. However, this also assumes that you're going to be buying the shop's tunes and relying on them for revisions. (Most shops aren't going to lend you their dongle to load someone else's tune).

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by Celigts

Greetings,

Purchased the PTUNING Flex Fuel Kit v2
I've never tuned the car.
Stock EVERYTHING except for a
Catback Exhaust +
HKS drop in air filter +
Stage 1 Exedy Clutch

I would have pulled the trigger on the PTUNING Header but they were out of stock ...

Goals are E85 obviously...
More power...

How much is a Tune going to run me? (roundabout figure)
(I don't have ecutek stuffs)

Should I buy Injectors? Which kind? CC's?
Oil Change?
Fuel pump?
What header?
Overpipe/frontpipe?

Seems like the majority of people on the forums are using the OFT tunes for E85 so most of the posts are geared towards OFT.

Seeking assistance

Thanks!

You can get dongle/license/tune for 750$ from xero-limit and flex fuel included bundle for 1200$

Stock pump and injectors are fine with E85 until FI

[86TOYO2k17]

Header depends on budget and expectations. ACE header is the best hands down. JDL is probably best bang for buck all around. Can’t go wrong with either.

[churchx]

imho hard to beat bang for buck gruppe s header + oft or even more so, stock headers with punched out cat + oft.

[Celigts]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Header depends on budget and expectations. ACE header is the best hands down. JDL is probably best bang for buck all around. Can’t go wrong with either.

I've seen some dynos on the 4-2-1 jdl header ... pushing 180ish hp. Why this header over some others? Seen some rubbing/fitment issues also...doesn't feel like 180hp is a major boost from a 155hp stock baseline in comparison with PTUNING/ACE. What am I missing? (Serious question cuz I'm genuinely interested in it if it's the best header outside of my first choice...plus they have an overpipe/frontpipe combo that looks nice)

I want to pull the trigger on a header...
I'd buy the PTUNING if it was in stock w.o question since I'm ultimately going with their kit for the Turbo ... but they're out of stock...next best thing?
I dont believe ACE is an option as it comes with an overpipe attached which'll conflict with ptuning turbokit?

Anyways
I ordered Delicious Tuning package for $1050. Stage 1. Was informed if I get a header they'll sell me stage 2 for $75 sooo hopefully I did the right thing.

$620 for pruning flex fuel kit
$1050 for ecutek + tune

My next oil change I should buy which exact oil?
I'll be running strictly e85 I'd say.
I live in southern california and it's summer up n coming.

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by Celigts

I've seen some dynos on the 4-2-1 jdl header ... pushing 180ish hp. Why this header over some others? Seen some rubbing/fitment issues also...doesn't feel like 180hp is a major boost from a 155hp stock baseline in comparison with PTUNING/ACE. What am I missing? (Serious question cuz I'm genuinely interested in it if it's the best header outside of my first choice...plus they have an overpipe/frontpipe combo that looks nice)

I want to pull the trigger on a header...
I'd buy the PTUNING if it was in stock w.o question since I'm ultimately going with their kit for the Turbo ... but they're out of stock...next best thing?
I dont believe ACE is an option as it comes with an overpipe attached which'll conflict with ptuning turbokit?

Anyways
I ordered Delicious Tuning package for $1050. Stage 1. Was informed if I get a header they'll sell me stage 2 for $75 sooo hopefully I did the right thing.

$620 for pruning flex fuel kit
$1050 for ecutek + tune

My next oil change I should buy which exact oil?
I'll be running strictly e85 I'd say.
I live in southern california and it's summer up n coming.

You can’t run any header but the turbo manifold the kit comes with. So if you plan on turbo then skip the header all together.

Secondly I was referring to the jdl 4-1 catless header which goes for about 850$ for EL and 750$ for UEL. Although the 4-2-1 is still solid but costs a bit more. And ace has same “fitment” issue which isn’t even an issue it takes literally 15seconds to fix. But like I said ACE is best overall. and JDL 4-1 EL would be my
more budget minded pick. But getting any real NA power costs $ so I wouldn’t skimp on a header.

And thirdly don’t get hung up on the actual number but look at the % increase and % increase of area under the curve. Too many people get hung up on a peak number. “This header made 200whp its the best” but they don’t factor in it came
From a 176who baseline and it barely had any increase for most of the entire powerband just a 5k-7400k peak bump. 155 to 180 is 20% increase. 176 to 200 is a 14% increase. Don’t compare whp numbers compare percentage increases over baseline.

[Celigts]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

You can’t run any header but the turbo manifold the kit comes with. So if you plan on turbo then skip the header all together.

Secondly I was referring to the jdl 4-1 catless header which goes for about 850$ for EL and 750$ for UEL. Although the 4-2-1 is still solid but costs a bit more. And ace has same “fitment” issue which isn’t even an issue it takes literally 15seconds to fix. But like I said ACE is best overall. and JDL 4-1 EL would be my
more budget minded pick. But getting any real NA power costs $ so I wouldn’t skimp on a header.

And thirdly don’t get hung up on the actual number but look at the % increase and % increase of area under the curve. Too many people get hung up on a peak number. “This header made 200whp its the best” but they don’t factor in it came
From a 176who baseline and it barely had any increase for most of the entire powerband just a 5k-7400k peak bump. 155 to 180 is 20% increase. 176 to 200 is a 14% increase. Don’t compare whp numbers compare percentage increases over baseline.

Ptuning kit puts the turbo (I believe) right after or on the overpipe fitting. So you can use w.e header you want but then the overpipe becomes an issue.

Holding off on the header for now until ptuning manufactures one again ... hate having to wait but it looks like it's the best performance header w.o the overpipe addition like ACE has...

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by Celigts

Ptuning kit puts the turbo (I believe) right after or on the overpipe fitting. So you can use w.e header you want but then the overpipe becomes an issue.

Holding off on the header for now until ptuning manufactures one again ... hate having to wait but it looks like it's the best performance header w.o the overpipe addition like ACE has...

interesting i was unaware of that, looking into it more you are right. any 4-1 header should work fine. only downside wouldn't having such a long "exhaust manifold" and then also needing more/longer charge piping compared to a traditional turbo manifold setup cause a lot more boost lag?

Ptuning is a great header though for sure, when i was shopping i narrowed it down to ACE, PTuning, and JDL. was almost sold on JDL then thought well for a little more i could just get PTuning, then was sold on Ptuning and then thought well for a little more i could just get ACE 250B... so ended up with that. Any of those three would be great options.

[86TOYO2k17]

Where do you see they are out of stock? Looking on website it looks to be available.

[Celigts]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Where do you see they are out of stock? Looking on website it looks to be available.

Called them.
They told me it's out 🤔

Hopefully soon they'll make more cuz I want the gains!!!
Stage 2 tune will run me $75 once I get it delicious tuning says so no biggie ... but I have a header leak currently. Minor leak I was told soooo ya. Waiting isn't optimal.

[EndlessAzure]

Originally Posted by Celigts

Called them.
They told me it's out 🤔

Hopefully soon they'll make more cuz I want the gains!!!
Stage 2 tune will run me $75 once I get it delicious tuning says so no biggie ... but I have a header leak currently. Minor leak I was told soooo ya. Waiting isn't optimal.

Did you let Delicious know you would be running the Ptuning flex fuel kit and not the Delicious flex fuel kit? I'm sure they need to send you a different map if the two kits don't send data the same way to the ECU.