Random Thoughts - Part Deux [NO POLITICS]

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

You think so? Might be... idk there’s no solid research to agree or disagree

It's more important to figure out why the corrosion set in so quickly and so hard that the nuts seized. Both oem and arp use decent materials and are well plated. There's something sketchy about that combination of lug and nut to set up that kind of galvanic corrosion.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

You make a good point. 89 ft/tq was for OEM studs spec vs ARP stud might have lower or higher tq lvl. I should check on that...

Maybe it should be 86 lbft

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

It's more important to figure out why the corrosion set in so quickly and so hard that the nuts seized. Both oem and arp use decent materials and are well plated. There's something sketchy about that combination of lug and nut to set up that kind of galvanic corrosion.

Very true. I have used Kics lugnuts & they were working without an issue. When seats on Kics breaking, so I replaced it w Muteki cuz most of my friends uses & don’t have any issues. It went in almost without an issue til almost at the end got crazy tight but nothing over 89 ftp/tq.

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Maybe it should be 86 lbft

HAHAHA! Good one!

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Simple 24” breaker bar

I think an impact driver might be more gentile if you have one, counterintuitive as it might be. It should wear on the threads a bit (causing them to be slightly looser) before snapping the lug.

I'll defer to some of the more experienced folks if they disagree.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Spuds

I think an impact driver might be more gentile if you have one, counterintuitive as it might be. It should wear on the threads a bit (causing them to be slightly looser) before snapping the lug.

I'll defer to some of the more experienced folks if they disagree.

Sadly I only have electric impact gun that’s really weak. It’s v12 battery, so I barely screw it on & prob tq down bout 20~40 ftp/tq, so no way it’ll unscrew this seized lugnuts.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Sadly I only have electric impact gun that’s really weak. It’s v12 battery, so I barely screw it on & prob tq down bout 20~40 ftp/tq, so no way it’ll unscrew this seized lugnuts.

In all seriousness, back in the day, when I had a "tough nut to crack", if it didn't respond to two grunts, I'd heat the nut up (NOT the bolt/stud) with a torch, like the first one (older version of the second one).






humfrz

[Teseo]

Originally Posted by Spuds

No, that's bad for lugnuts. You want them to stay put under all sorts of vibrations and forces. Antiseize will change the frictional forces that keep the lugnuts in place. It also changes the ratio between axial force and tangent force, which can damage threads and wheels if you torque it to spec. If you don't torque to spec (or reasonably close) other bad things can happen.


TLDR:. Don't use antiseize on threaded parts with a torque specification.

In theory, yes.
On the field works wonder, im not saying "cover up" the entire stud. Just very little on the lugnut. Im doing this and the lug nut doest loose a mili meter of torque

[spike021]

Smells like burnt popcorn/metal/something in my apartment. Walked outside a half hour ago because I heard large trucks outside and people on radios. Apparently the next Victorian style apartment building over had some issue where people left food on the burning stove. ����

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Maybe it should be 86 lbft

Maybe time for that new Bimmer Supra with beefy German lug nuts.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by krayzie

Maybe time for that new Bimmer Supra with beefy German lug nuts.

Maybe that's the answer. Instead of m12 studs, m14s would hold up better. I've never had trouble with wheel lugs. Never broken one in my life and I've lived in all kinds of climates.


I know the problem is real but I honestly don't understand.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Maybe that's the answer. Instead of m12 studs, m14s would hold up better. I've never had trouble with wheel lugs. Never broken one in my life and I've lived in all kinds of climates.


I know the problem is real but I honestly don't understand.

What some people need is, more studs, then you can break a couple off and it won't much matter ..


humfrz

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by spike021

Smells like burnt popcorn/metal/something in my apartment. Walked outside a half hour ago because I heard large trucks outside and people on radios. Apparently the next Victorian style apartment building over had some issue where people left food on the burning stove. ����

Arts-and-Crafts-style buildings are much better at absorbing burnt food odor.

[ichitaka05]

I tried to see I can work on tighting rest of the bolts & see shop can bust all of em off... I mean fix em. Well that plan didn’t go as I wanted. Bust one more stud & other 3 are just keep spinning... that mean, end part is stripped or I’ve stripped the hub... either way I’ll need to tow my car AND get it fixed... which equals to more money. All I wanted to do was just change the front brake pads.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

I tried to see I can work on tighting rest of the bolts & see shop can bust all of em off... I mean fix em. Well that plan didn’t go as I wanted. Bust one more stud & other 3 are just keep spinning... that mean, end part is stripped or I’ve stripped the hub... either way I’ll need to tow my car AND get it fixed... which equals to more money. All I wanted to do was just change the front brake pads.

Well now, what an aggravation …..

I reckon I tried to tell ya a few posts back:

"Welp, since your recent discovery, I'd suggest you take your car up to a local tire shop and ask them to replace all the studs on your wheels."

Sometimes, it just don't "pay" to try to save money.

I recall the time I was going to save the company some money by replacing the burner unit on a hot water heater in the basement of a house I was using for an office on an agricultural research station.

Yep, replaced the burner, charged the system, lit that sucker and BAM! - it blew itself to smithereens and singed my hair!


From that time on, I just call in a professional, when a gas appliance acts up ….


humfrz