Aftermarket NA intake manifold progress?

[Dr. BRZ]

Originally Posted by EXCellR8

I actually like the Crawford blocks, installed recently. Plus it's $300 vs $3,000 so that's a no brainer. The BPB + Openflash tune completely killed my torque dip and the car pulls extremely smooth. No idea if I'm getting any actual HP gains but it just feels nicer overall so I'm very happy.

Has anyone bolted on a 2016-2018 aluminum manifold to their older motor?

The bpb only work on 91, very little hp to be gained from e85. Doesn't help people who have been running e85 for years..

[mrg666]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

There are more options, but they are expensive.

I got 100hp for $5000. What do you get with those "expensive" options?

I checked Crawford power block, it looks like just another BS part that *might* do something negligible. Of course, it is your money guys, throw it wherever you like.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

There are more options, but they are expensive.

Originally Posted by mrg666

I got 100hp for $5000. What do you get with those "expensive" options?

I checked Crawford power block, it looks like just another BS part that *might* do something negligible. Of course, it is your money guys, throw it wherever you like.

Not anyone has same preferences and not anyone want a supercharger. And by the way, getting 80hp or more just with a supercharger and everything else stock is too much. You would be more safe with a maximum of 50-60hp and getting the rest of 20hp from other parts like a complete exhaust. Of course it is your money and it is my money. Personally, I don't want to throw my car in a junkyard after 5 or even 10 years :b

And by the way, I didn't mention anything about Crawford power blocks. This is your own conclusion.

[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by mrg666

I got 100hp for $5000. What do you get with those "expensive" options?

I checked Crawford power block, it looks like just another BS part that *might* do something negligible. Of course, it is your money guys, throw it wherever you like.

Actually if you read through the forums (look up shiv & crawford blocks, or moto mike and power blocks) they make a pretty big impact when tuned correctly (even on E85, though they tend to work optimally with pump). It's just tuning of runner lengths, nothing more. Up to you on whether to skip out on them or not - I have a set ready to install

[PuslarBrrrz]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

Actually if you read through the forums (look up shiv & crawford blocks, or moto mike and power blocks) they make a pretty big impact when tuned correctly (even on E85, though they tend to work optimally with pump). It's just tuning of runner lengths, nothing more. Up to you on whether to skip out on them or not - I have a set ready to install

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This. I had them installed before going E85 and adding a low profile strut tower brace that wouldn't clear the higher IM. The BPBs with or without a tune make a noticeable difference on 93. They make the car feel the way it should have stock.

[mrg666]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

And by the way, getting 80hp or more just with a supercharger and everything else stock is too much. You would be more safe with a maximum of 50-60hp and getting the rest of 20hp from other parts like a complete exhaust.

You have no idea what you are talking about. How are you making up all these numbers?

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Of course it is your money and it is my money. Personally, I don't want to throw my car in a junkyard after 5 or even 10 years :b

I have all the intention to keep my car for more than 10 years. All indications after 12K miles show that it is working just fine. If it breaks, like all other cars can, I will fix it. It definitely is not going to junkyard.

[mrg666]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

Actually if you read through the forums (look up shiv & crawford blocks, or moto mike and power blocks) they make a pretty big impact when tuned correctly (even on E85, though they tend to work optimally with pump). It's just tuning of runner lengths, nothing more. Up to you on whether to skip out on them or not - I have a set ready to install

I am definitely skipping. Best of luck to you!

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by mrg666

You have no idea what you are talking about. How are you making up all these numbers?

Who me? I don't make up any numbers. All these have been measured by detailed stress test analysis simulations and cylinder pressure measurements via fitted sensors.