4th gen ND Mazda MX-5 Miata - Page 77 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

bfrank1972 · 03-02-2018, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777

It doesn't fundamentally change what a Miata is, just like another 50 HP doesn't fundamentally change the twins.

That's a good thing

fatoni · 03-02-2018, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 8RZ

Yet has the best power-to-weight ratio out of all of them.

That's barely the case before the car is heat soaked and robbed of power but even if it wasn't the case, if that's the metric you're using to measure a car, the miata isn't what you should be looking at.

ermax · 03-02-2018, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback

TBH, I still wouldn't be interested. Not being a Fanboy, but I bought the BRZ over the Miata for practicality reasons. I see the BRZ as a Miata for people who want to daily it and/or use it year-round as an only vehicle.

I would be much more inclined to buy a Miata if this was a weekend/summer toy.

2774/(2381/181)=210.8

So your decision would be changed if the FRS had an entire 11 more HP? It wouldn't make a good DD with 211HP? I don't know, you say your not a fanboy but I'm not convinced. Hahaha

EAGLE5 · 03-02-2018, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bfrank1972

That's a good thing

I'd have lots of fun in a twin with 300hp or 400hp. Or 800hp. It would just be a very different car to drive.

bfrank1972 · 03-02-2018, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777

I'd have lots of fun in a twin with 300hp or 400hp. Or 800hp. It would just be a very different car to drive.

Hah - yeah for sure, but I'm glad cars like the 86 and the Miata still exist, and manufacturers are standing behind them. There's something to be said for the driving experience they offer - giving them 300 or 400 hp would drastically change that experience. If that's what I were really going for, I'd just go out and buy a Porsche 718, etc.

Stang70Fastback · 03-02-2018, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ermax

2774/(2381/181)=210.8

So your decision would be changed if the FRS had an entire 11 more HP? It wouldn't make a good DD with 211HP? I don't know, you say your not a fanboy but I'm not convinced. Hahaha

What? You've lost me. My point was that power wasn't the issue for me.

ermax · 03-02-2018, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback

What? You've lost me. My point was that power wasn't the issue for me.

Sorry, I thought you were saying you wouldn’t be interested in a power bump on the 86. I’m asleep today apparently.

TommyW · 03-02-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

What makes you say that?

They'll never get that kind of power from the existing motor. Maybe 10 more max. Doubtful they'll want to mess with it to the extent of an engine swap or change the internals of the existing one

OfficeWorker · 03-02-2018, 09:45 PM

I wonder if they will do anything to improve visibility. I checked out the Miata before buying the BRZ. I was so freaked out by the poor frontward and rearward visibility, and blind spots that a 747 could hide in, that I test drove it less than a mile before saying I had enough. Neat car, but that in and of itself did me in.

Summerwolf · 03-02-2018, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

Heaviest miata they made. Better off with almost any other miata imo.

Wtf.... the mazdaspeed was awesome. Flyin' miata made some nice upgrade kits too for low cost.

Better bang for the buck than turboing a 1st gen IMO.

Allch Chcar · 03-02-2018, 10:13 PM

Mazda just released the new generation. It's about 4 years out from another update.

fatoni · 03-02-2018, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Wtf.... the mazdaspeed was awesome. Flyin' miata made some nice upgrade kits too for low cost.

Better bang for the buck than turboing a 1st gen IMO.

i just think they are worse than a regular miata for most of the things that makes the miata a good choice in the first place. the flyin miata stuff really did wake them up though i must admit. i dont think the mazdaspeed is any faster in a straight line than an nc or nd if i recall correctly either so its not like it transformed the car other than weight and giant ass rims.

TylerLieberman · 03-03-2018, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777

A factory Miata with 300HP would be something special. A factor Miata with 181 is whatever. It doesn't fundamentally change what a Miata is, just like another 50 HP doesn't fundamentally change the twins. 350HP in a twin might be another story.

True, but a ~20% power increase in a 2400lb car will still be noticeable. Not life changing, but noticeable.

Just like 50hp (~25%) on a 2800lb FRS is pretty noticeable.

Of course this depends on where exactly in the powerband that increase is going, but still. I think it's a nice move on Mazda's part.... if it's true.

airjonny · 03-03-2018, 01:34 AM

Still prefer the 86 platform. It's a 3 seater in a pinch and I don't have to play Tetris packing golf clubs or groceries. And the lack of body roll is a plus.

Maybe down the line when I can afford to keep 2 cars.

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OfficeWorker Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Drives: 2018 WRX STI Location: Maryland Posts: 107 Thanks: 56 Thanked 49 Times in 37 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I wonder if they will do anything to improve visibility. I checked out the Miata before buying the BRZ. I was so freaked out by the poor frontward and rearward visibility, and blind spots that a 747 could hide in, that I test drove it less than a mile before saying I had enough. Neat car, but that in and of itself did me in.

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airjonny Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Nissan Murano Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 491 Thanks: 505 Thanked 340 Times in 185 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Still prefer the 86 platform. It's a 3 seater in a pinch and I don't have to play Tetris packing golf clubs or groceries. And the lack of body roll is a plus. Maybe down the line when I can afford to keep 2 cars.

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