Circular "hatch" on the right rear of my car....

[PetrolioBenzina]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Odometer reading at start of year vs odometer reading at end of year = taxable distance. Has been done with company vehicles for decades.
No need for high tech GPS tracking devices and the paranoia they would create.

That does not account for any out-of-state driving, and you really don't think the gov would trust you, do you?

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh

Why is it illegal to pump your own gas though? What's the rationale?

In New Jersey it was just good old fashioned price fixing. Somebody tried to offer self-service gas for cheaper than full service and undercut the price set (illegally) by the gasoline retailers association, so the association went to the legislature to get a law passed to prohibit it. Since then whenever the subject of repealing it has come up, they end up keeping it because no Democrat wants to be painted as the guy who forced poor working class people out of their menial jobs.

Oregon probably has a similar story.

Originally Posted by new2subaru

I actually seek them out. Not in the FR-S but my others cars. I want to keep a few around for the elderly.

In the US, any station with more than one employee on duty must provide assistance upon request under the Americans with Disabilities Act. The ADA doesn't require it if there's only one employee on duty, but they're strongly encouraged to do so. Many stations have call buttons on the pumps where you can ask the attendant to come out and pump your gas for you, and most of them will do it unless they're really busy. It's easy enough for old people to find stations that are either large enough to have multiple employees or small enough not to be too busy.

[PetrolioBenzina]

A large number of stations have said they won't do self service, so all the panic is not required.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

A large number of stations have said they won't do self service, so all the panic is not required.

LOL. They will. Oregon has a statutory increase in the minimum wage on the books for every year until 2023. The stations are not going to keep paying more and more every year for unnecessary employees. You may have a few holdouts here and there, but they'll end up charging more for their gas to pay for the menials, and their business will eventually drop off to where it doesn't make any sense any more.

Anybody who has decided to make a "career" out of pumping gas should already be looking for other work, even if the station says they'll keep him on.

Panic is not required because pumping your own gas is an idiotic thing to panic over. What do they think people do in the 48 other states that pump their own gas?

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

In the US, any station with more than one employee on duty must provide assistance upon request under the Americans with Disabilities Act. The ADA doesn't require it if there's only one employee on duty, but they're strongly encouraged to do so. Many stations have call buttons on the pumps where you can ask the attendant to come out and pump your gas for you, and most of them will do it unless they're really busy. It's easy enough for old people to find stations that are either large enough to have multiple employees or small enough not to be too busy.

That's fine and all but it's still not the same as pulling up and asking for a fill. Oh and talking to another human and all lol

I'm getting older and am seeing service disappearing rapidly. I often wonder what it will be like in 20 years when I'm elderly. I don't think I will like it very much. There's the possibility I will never have to leave my home though. Just order everything "online"

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by new2subaru

That's fine and all but it's still not the same as pulling up and asking for a fill. Oh and talking to another human and all lol

I'm getting older and am seeing service disappearing rapidly. I often wonder what it will be like in 20 years when I'm elderly. I don't think I will like it very much. There's the possibility I will never have to leave my home though. Just order everything "online"

In Ontario self serve really didn't come into it's own until the late 70s and early 80s. I bought my first two cars with my earnings pumping gas from 1972 to 1974. Then the self serve places started popping up and business dropped off to the point they didn't need a pump jockey anymore. I got laid off at 15 years old. I loved the job since I got to talk to all sorts of people.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by new2subaru

That's fine and all but it's still not the same as pulling up and asking for a fill. Oh and talking to another human and all lol

I'm getting older and am seeing service disappearing rapidly. I often wonder what it will be like in 20 years when I'm elderly. I don't think I will like it very much. There's the possibility I will never have to leave my home though. Just order everything "online"

I've seen it done go .......

Back-in-the-day ...... they would pump the gas, check the oil, air up the tires and clean the windshield ....... all with a smile .....


humfrz

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

In Ontario self serve really didn't come into it's own until the late 70s and early 80s. I bought my first two cars with my earnings pumping gas from 1972 to 1974. Then the self serve places started popping up and business dropped off to the point they didn't need a pump jockey anymore. I got laid off at 15 years old. I loved the job since I got to talk to all sorts of people.

My wifes first job was pumping gas. She has fond memories. IMHO we still need them, especially for the elderly. Unfortunately, I don't think they are valued like they were some years ago. Now I really sound old!

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by humfrz

I've seen it done go .......

Back-in-the-day ...... they would pump the gas, check the oil, air up the tires and clean the windshield ....... all with a smile .....


humfrz

I'm sure there are some around the less populated areas here still. The wife and I took a very long trip through the southern states a few years ago without hitting a major city. We hit 18 states in total. We saw many full serve stations and everyone was extremely nice. It was a bit of a shocker for them to see CDN plates.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

In Ontario self serve really didn't come into it's own until the late 70s and early 80s. I bought my first two cars with my earnings pumping gas from 1972 to 1974. Then the self serve places started popping up and business dropped off to the point they didn't need a pump jockey anymore. I got laid off at 15 years old. I loved the job since I got to talk to all sorts of people.

Ahhhh.......yes, that brings back memories.

Almost every Sunday, in the late 1950's, I would work at my Uncles Chevrolet dealership and gas station. The picture is an actual picture ...... except the gas pumps are gone that were in front.

I would pump gas when someone drove up, and the bell rang, and wash cars (on a wash area behind the large glass window) between gas customers and detail new cars in that circular area, if things were really slow.

Yep, $1.00 per hour and happy to get the work ....... beat the heck out of baling hay .....

Gas was 31 cents per gallon, the cokes in the machine were 5 cents and cigarettes, out of the machine, were a quarter a pack.


humfrz

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by new2subaru

I'm sure there are some around the less populated areas here still. The wife and I took a very long trip through the southern states a few years ago without hitting a major city. We hit 18 states in total. We saw many full serve stations and everyone was extremely nice. It was a bit of a shocker for them to see CDN plates.

I'll bet THAT was an adventure!

How many times did you get the comment "ya'll ain't from these parts err ya".




humfrz

[PetrolioBenzina]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

LOL. They will. Oregon has a statutory increase in the minimum wage on the books for every year until 2023. The stations are not going to keep paying more and more every year for unnecessary employees. You may have a few holdouts here and there, but they'll end up charging more for their gas to pay for the menials, and their business will eventually drop off to where it doesn't make any sense any more.

Anybody who has decided to make a "career" out of pumping gas should already be looking for other work, even if the station says they'll keep him on.

Panic is not required because pumping your own gas is an idiotic thing to panic over. What do they think people do in the 48 other states that pump their own gas?

I'll let you google up backlash against the law from gas stations themselves. Nobody is required to go self-serv, and many have said they won't.

And "panic" is exactly what some of the people who think they all of a sudden have to pump their own gas are feeling. It's comical.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

I'll let you google up backlash against the law from gas stations themselves. Nobody is required to go self-serv, and many have said they won't.

I'm telling you, it's all for show. People may talk a good game, but when the tough talkers see other stations keeping more profit by getting rid of their pump attendants, they'll fold like napkins falling off the counter by the hot dog and taquito roller.

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by humfrz

I'll bet THAT was an adventure!

How many times did you get the comment "ya'll ain't from these parts err ya".




humfrz

It was the best trip we've ever taken! We got a lot of "How ya'll doin. Y'er a long ways from home!" Kids waving when driving by. There's was no real planning. We just went where/when we felt like, which was the best part. We also learned what real heat is lol

Funny because CDN plates are all over FL in the winter...