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Old 07-06-2012, 01:11 AM   #15
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So Cal also had huge allocations compared to other places. I am in Portland and have yet to see another Fr-s or BRz... ever. The only ones I see from the area are on this forum. Also, out of the 4 dealerships that sell Scion they are still requiring deposits and a wait period.
Gresham Scion had a Hot Lava Auto on their lot Tuesday.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:20 AM   #16
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Dude. I went through probably more heck than you. All you said is true, but I can take you one step further. The dealers are withholding some truth. The fact is the car you want is out there and close to you. And the dealer may even know where it is at. But he doesn't want to tell you because in order for him to get it, he has to pull strings on a trade with the dealer that has it. The problem is the dealers own the cars. Not Scion, not Toyota, not Subaru. The dealer owns the cars. So even though he has access to a database that tells him where you can go to buy your car, why would he tell you? That means some other dealer is going to get the profit on the sale. He is going to say it will take 3 or 4 months to get the car, because that's how long it takes to order one from Japan. Your best bet is if you can find a friendly dealer or just cold call around every dealer in your area until you find the car you want. You'll have a lot of ticked off dealers that really want to make a sale, but it will work. The other way is just chill till your car shows up which will save you a lot of headache in trying to find one. Trust me man.

Best of luck

Strongly agreed. I just google all dealers in the area and write to them one by one.

P.S. the FRS is not that rare. There is one blue MT sitting in my town for at least 3 weeks. (JF1ZNAA12D1702221)
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:59 AM   #17
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Strongly agreed. I just google all dealers in the area and write to them one by one.

P.S. the FRS is not that rare. There is one blue MT sitting in my town for at least 3 weeks. (JF1ZNAA12D1702221)
Definitely agree that the FRS isn't that rare. Though it seems that the BRZ limiteds are hard to come by. Becker Subaru by my house got a limited and a premium last week sometime, and the limited is already gone and off their website's inventory. Bummer...
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:43 AM   #18
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Right now, there are 12 brz/fr-s vehicles available in the Sea-tac area of washington, and 17 available with 50 miles of my tiny New England home town. Mostly in the Keene, NH area. These RWD cars don't sell great in snowy states, so focus your search on cold states near you.

According to autotrader.com there are 500 cars sitting on dealer lots across the country, right now.

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Old 07-06-2012, 09:46 AM   #19
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According to autotrader.com there are 500 cars sitting on dealer lots across the country, right now.
The Autotrader, Cars.com, and even dealership website listings cannot really be relied upon for accurate information in my opinion. The new inventories often contain items like reserved cars, vehicles that are not yet in inventory, or cars that have been previously sold. A couple weeks back I visited KC where there were 11 cars listed at 5 dealerships. I visited the 5 dealerships and saw 5 cars, including a sold car. Certainly there are some cars sitting on lots, including manuals, but personally I consider website new inventory information rather unreliable, especially for a car in the first few months after release.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:09 AM   #20
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On that same level, each dealership can basically trade a manual for a manual and an automatic for an automatic.

What? I just talked to my friend who's a Scion sales manager and he traded his first 6MT Argento for a 6AT Firestorm that a customer wanted. Dealers can swap for whatever they want. Unless you're talking allocation?
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:11 AM   #21
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The Autotrader, Cars.com, and even dealership website listings cannot really be relied upon for accurate information in my opinion. The new inventories often contain items like reserved cars, vehicles that are not yet in inventory, or cars that have been previously sold. A couple weeks back I visited KC where there were 11 cars listed at 5 dealerships. I visited the 5 dealerships and saw 5 cars, including a sold car. Certainly there are some cars sitting on lots, including manuals, but personally I consider website new inventory information rather unreliable, especially for a car in the first few months after release.
I went through the same thing. All but two of the BRZ Limited's I wanted were already sold even though they were on those web sites. When I found mine, and put down my deposit, the car disappeared from the dealer's site and the price went to NOT LISTED on the above sites.

Now that I have my car, I can only keep my fingers crossed for all of you that are still waiting. Take the matter into your own hands though, call every dealer you can! I went about 600+ miles to get mine. It was well worth it!
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:20 AM   #22
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Do your homework and extend your search area to surrounding states or further. Track down dealerships and call call call. They are out there, you just have to find them because the dealerships won't do it for you.

Just last Friday, a DGM BRZ Premium MT was up for grabs. A couple weeks before that a guy I know bought a Raven FR-S MT straight off a dealer's lot. Some people here have driven 1000 miles to get the car they want. They are out there. It's just going to take a little work on your part.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:11 PM   #23
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It is VERY area-specific on how much FR-S's and BRZ's sell. The closest BRZ limited to me has already sold but there are like ten WRB Limiteds in Manual in the Long Island area alone for NY. I think FR-S's are actually out-selling them.

I imagine it's because most people would skip out on a RWD Subaru when we have pretty bad snow storms around here during the winter. People get the FR-S because Toyota doesn't have many AWD cars. If they came in looking for a Corolla then they might as well "upgrade" to the sporty FR-S.
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:52 PM   #24
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Dude. I went through probably more heck than you. All you said is true, but I can take you one step further. The dealers are withholding some truth. The fact is the car you want is out there and close to you. And the dealer may even know where it is at. But he doesn't want to tell you because in order for him to get it, he has to pull strings on a trade with the dealer that has it. The problem is the dealers own the cars. Not Scion, not Toyota, not Subaru. The dealer owns the cars. So even though he has access to a database that tells him where you can go to buy your car, why would he tell you? That means some other dealer is going to get the profit on the sale. He is going to say it will take 3 or 4 months to get the car, because that's how long it takes to order one from Japan. Your best bet is if you can find a friendly dealer or just cold call around every dealer in your area until you find the car you want. You'll have a lot of ticked off dealers that really want to make a sale, but it will work. The other way is just chill till your car shows up which will save you a lot of headache in trying to find one. Trust me man.

Best of luck

There is also the internet and autotrader. You can go each scion website and search dealer inventory. Or do a search on autotrader.

It only cost like $600 to ship a car across country. Check the dealers up north.
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:28 PM   #25
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I decided to hunt one down last weekend and it took a few hours of phone calls but I located 2 MT's that were within 300 miles. Thankfully one was exactly the color I was looking for. There were about 16 listed on Autotrader within that radius and every dealer I called said those were either already sold or were customers cars that were ordered. They were all telling me if I ordered one that it would be here in a few weeks. I found what I wanted so I'm set and only time will tell if this was all just smoke and mirrors to build hype.
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