Choosing brake pads for daily and track

[CatDaddysBBQ]

Not trying to start some flame war, but you could look at EBC Yellowstuff.

They market this pad as a quiet streetable and trackable pad. In theory, it seems like it could fit the bill nicely for you.

NOW, many people have had huge issues with them, and will swear up and down that they are terrible. IT's true, people have had bad experiences with them.

BUT, i've had great luck with them. They're quiet on the street, have crazy good initial bite for street/autoX and have proven quite good on track for me. On a 96 degree day running 5 30 minute sessions, the last few minutes of the last session of the day started to hint that the brakes weren't stopping quite as well. I never lost them, just the slightest decrease in brake performance after 2.4 hours of track time on a hot summer day.

They didn't crumble off, they didn't kill me, they worked as advertised.

So while I know that they're not that popular on the boards, I personally love them and haven't had a need to look elsewhere for a 1-pad to do it all solution. Obviously YMMV.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by wparsons

Dare I ask what the price point is like for our stock calipers?

$758 per axle. Same price front and rear.

Even at that price, I get more track time per dollar with this pad than I did with any $200 or $300 range pad. I haven't changed pads since the beginning of the year, and still have about 70% left.

[OND]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

$758 per axle.

And dreams are shattered..

[FirstWinter]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

$758 per axle.

Which pads are these? Do they work with stock calipers or would a BBK be necessary?

[Lunatic]

I tried the new Powerstop "Track Day" pads with my stock rotors and calipers. Really impressed. Positive stopping with good pedal feel on the track and no heat fade at all. And quiet enough to leave on the car for daily driving also. And they are less money than some of the other brands.

[Lynxis]

Originally Posted by CatDaddysBBQ

Not trying to start some flame war, but you could look at EBC Yellowstuff.

They market this pad as a quiet streetable and trackable pad. In theory, it seems like it could fit the bill nicely for you.

NOW, many people have had huge issues with them, and will swear up and down that they are terrible. IT's true, people have had bad experiences with them.

BUT, i've had great luck with them. They're quiet on the street, have crazy good initial bite for street/autoX and have proven quite good on track for me. On a 96 degree day running 5 30 minute sessions, the last few minutes of the last session of the day started to hint that the brakes weren't stopping quite as well. I never lost them, just the slightest decrease in brake performance after 2.4 hours of track time on a hot summer day.

They didn't crumble off, they didn't kill me, they worked as advertised.

So while I know that they're not that popular on the boards, I personally love them and haven't had a need to look elsewhere for a 1-pad to do it all solution. Obviously YMMV.

I'll second this. I ran them for track and street last year and they were quiet on the street and held up to track abuse and dusted like mad but I'll take some dust over the noise. Cold bite is a little weak but perfectly acceptable for street driving and bite increases as they get hot, unlike most dual purpose pads.

The problem I had with them is that they simply didn't last. I killed a set in a single season with only ~5000kms of daily driving, 4 track days and 6 autocross events. I don't brake hard enough to engage ABS either. I simply can't afford to go through pads that fast so I'm keeping separate sets of street and track pads.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

$758 per axle. Same price front and rear.

Even at that price, I get more track time per dollar with this pad than I did with any $200 or $300 range pad. I haven't changed pads since the beginning of the year, and still have about 70% left.

After the initial shock wears off, that actually sounds like a good value.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by wparsons

After the initial shock wears off, that actually sounds like a good value.

It is, especially when I consider it lets me be lazy and not have to swap pads (somewhat) regularly. I hate working on cars when it's hot!

The price for these pads doesn't change, regardless of platform or caliper either. That $758 price holds whether it's for a BRZ rear, or a GTR front, so if you already have a BBK, the value only multiplies.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by FirstWinter

Which pads are these? Do they work with stock calipers or would a BBK be necessary?

Project Mu Racing H series.

They can be made for both your stock calipers and a BBK.

Clarification: these are Project Mu Racing, not Project Mu. The pads are not available through your average PMu dealer.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

$758 per axle.

Can one do this in installments? You know, do one axle at a time over 4 years?

[churchx]

CSG Mike: are they H12 pads you speaking of? What model/shape of those is for stockers?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by churchx

CSG Mike: are they H12 pads you speaking of? What model/shape of those is for stockers?

Those are (some) outdated compounds, but yes.

[churchx]

Hmm, by their posted charts variance seems a bit larger for H12 low to mid temps, 0-300C delta of 0.15, not 0.02μ. SAS871 or SAS964 curves look "flatter"

[CatDaddysBBQ]

Totally. I autoX and DD WAY more than I track the car (1 or 2 times a year), so they don't wear down very fast for me. I've had the same set for over a year, and they still have some life left in them.

But 4 track days? I'd imagine that'd destroy them pretty easily!