Hill Start Assist?

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I have never had to heel and toe a hill in my life and that includes very large military vehicles in the Bavarian Alps.

Originally Posted by humfrz

Why didn't I heel & toe ....... because, unless you had a shoe size 18 foot with a deformed ankle ...... it was impossible.

LOL. I was thinking the same thing when I read Tcoat's post. I once had to drive a 20 ton grip and lighting truck across Manhattan and through the Lincoln Tunnel at rush hour because I was the only person on our entire crew who could drive a stick shift (they were almost all New Yorkers). Even though it was huge (to me), I wasn't entirely uncomfortable in it because the pedals felt a lot like the '59 Apache.

Neither of which would be physically possible to heel-toe. Even if your foot were big enough, the brake pedal was so much higher than the gas pedal that your ankle would have to be double jointed, and your foot would have to have a right angle bend in the arch. You would startle children and little old ladies if you walked down the street with that.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

LOL. I was thinking the same thing when I read Tcoat's post. I once had to drive a 20 ton grip and lighting truck across Manhattan and through the Lincoln Tunnel at rush hour because I was the only person on our entire crew who could drive a stick shift (they were almost all New Yorkers). Even though it was huge (to me), I wasn't entirely uncomfortable in it because the pedals felt a lot like the '59 Apache.

Neither of which would be physically possible to heel-toe. Even if your foot were big enough, the brake pedal was so much higher than the gas pedal that your ankle would have to be double jointed, and your foot would have to have a right angle bend in the arch. You would startle children and little old ladies if you walked down the street with that.

Meh. It could be done in the 5 tons but still never did it.
Many of my cars could not be heel and toed even if I had wanted to. My 58 Ford had no cover on the clutch pedal so it was about an inch wide piece of steel about 8 inches from the gas.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Meh. It could be done in the 5 tons but still never did it.
Many of my cars could not be heel and toed even if I had wanted to. My 58 Ford had no cover on the clutch pedal so it was about an inch wide piece of steel about 8 inches from the gas.

You tried to heel & toe with the gas and clutch pedal ??...... no wonder you had difficulty ........



humfrz

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by humfrz

You tried to heel & toe with the gas and clutch pedal ??...... no wonder you had difficulty ........



humfrz

You don't know how to drive manual if you can't heel toe clutch and gas.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by humfrz

You tried to heel & toe with the gas and clutch pedal ??...... no wonder you had difficulty ........



humfrz

Lol brake pedal. i apparently had clutch in my mind. Suppose you could clutch with the heel of one foot and toe of the other and the term would still be technically accurate.

[IronViper69]

If you do not have a car with hill assist on it and you really need one. Do it the old way. While stopped on a hill when ready to take off, pull up the hand brake give the car some gas and just before the clutch releases all the way, then release the hand break. That is what I use to do when I had my 2013 FR-S.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by IronViper69

If you do not have a car with hill assist on it and you really need one. Do it the old way. While stopped on a hill when ready to take off, pull up the hand brake give the car some gas and just before the clutch releases all the way, then release the hand break. That is what I use to do when I had my 2013 FR-S.

WELCOME to the gang, there, IronViper69........

Yep, the old handbrake technique still works - fer sure .....


humfrz

[Rai-zero]

I’m trying to turn my hill start off. I turned it on to try it out but it’s not for me. It can cause me to stall because I’m used to driving normal, backing up slight hill very little throttle and it’ll stall because of the hill start.

But I did the exact same thing as turning it on, hold the button for a minute or so until both lights go out then push button again and it won’t turn off.

Is there a trick about when and how long to hold the button the second time in order to disable?

Sorry if this is the wrong forum I have a 2018 BRZ but I’m assuming they are all the same.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Rai-zero

I’m trying to turn my hill start off. I turned it on to try it out but it’s not for me. It can cause me to stall because I’m used to driving normal, backing up slight hill very little throttle and it’ll stall because of the hill start.

But I did the exact same thing as turning it on, hold the button for a minute or so until both lights go out then push button again and it won’t turn off.

Is there a trick about when and how long to hold the button the second time in order to disable?

Sorry if this is the wrong forum I have a 2018 BRZ but I’m assuming they are all the same.

What does the owner manual say to do?

[RToyo86]

I turned mine and on and then off again following the same procedure as per the bullet point posts above.

I only found it useful on hills that are steep enough to require the hand brake otherwise.

[Ryan GT86]

So for learning manual would be better to leave hill assist off?

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Ryan GT86

So for learning manual would be better to leave hill assist off?

IMO it doesn't matter _unless_ you figure someday you'll get to drive other manual transmission cars that don't have a hill start assist.

I'd recommend trying both ways so at least you know how to use the e-brake without assist.

Personally I use the hill start assist and haven't had any problems. Yesterday I was on a steep ass hill behind a car that decided to partially crest it to the stop sign, and then not go at all despite it being his turn, so I was stopped on what was probably a 60+ degree hill. Worked fine.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by spike021

IMO it doesn't matter _unless_ you figure someday you'll get to drive other manual transmission cars that don't have a hill start assist.

I'd recommend trying both ways so at least you know how to use the e-brake without assist.

Personally I use the hill start assist and haven't had any problems. Yesterday I was on a steep ass hill behind a car that decided to partially crest it to the stop sign, and then not go at all despite it being his turn, so I was stopped on what was probably a 60+ degree hill. Worked fine.

Ya really ought to keep that machine on the paved roads ……….




humfrz

[spike021]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Ya really ought to keep that machine on the paved roads ……….




humfrz

San Francisco's roads are paved! They're just unnaturally steep!

I think this is the one I mentioned: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7579...7i13312!8i6656