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Old 07-06-2017, 02:59 PM   #85
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How is this thread still going?????????
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Old 07-06-2017, 03:00 PM   #86
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To satisfy your curiosity, 1 quart every 3-4 track days (2 to 3 hours of track time per day) and 2 months of daily driving (around 1500 miles of city use) is what mine and a few others use up around here.
That sounds reasonable enough.
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How is this thread still going?????????
We haven't hit the top hole yet.


Not only how is this one still going how is this a topic almost monthly?
Have people really become so used to readouts that a mechanical measuring device is now confusing?
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We haven't hit the top hole yet.


Not only how is this one still going how is this a topic almost monthly?
Have people really become so used to readouts that a mechanical measuring device is now confusing?
We've got a mechanical measuring device?


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Old 07-06-2017, 06:15 PM   #89
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My manufacturing processes instructor stressed to us multiple times that more lubricant is almost always a good idea, but I think he was referring to areas of life where there's no designated acceptable quantity... Like free drilling a tight hole.
Or tapping dat azz

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We've got a mechanical measuring device?


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The oil sticking to the dip stick is a mechanical action as opposed to an electronic one.

me·chan·i·cal
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adjective: mechanical
1.
working or produced by machines or machinery.
"a mechanical device"
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"she stopped the mechanical brushing of her hair"
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The manual says add oil to stay above the "low" mark and warns of an overfill damaging the engine. I check my oil at least once a month (the manual states check oil at every fill up iirc) and am totally happy following the manufacturer instructions for oil levels on my $25,000 piece of machinery. It's served me well over 60k miles.

You can presume whatever you wish but according to the manual I'm not "a quart low" I'm about half a quart from overfilling and potentially damaging the engine (as I'm not advocating running the car at the minimum all the time, I generally keep mine between 1/4 and 1/2 between the marks). As above my oil consumption is extremely low and I recently posted some UOA of my engine and it seems to be doing just fine.

Nowhere does the manual say "full" is correct and the manual per my understanding treats "full" as "maximum" which is consistent with the language they use for listing out the oil capacity later in the book. Again, the instructions say overfill can damage the car, underfill is not mentioned and even being below the low mark is treated as a non-issue.
But yet...



Puts you at the full line. If it was meant to be kept between the holes, stated capacity to be used for an oil change would bring it to that level.
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If it was meant to be kept between the holes, stated capacity to be used for an oil change would bring it to that level.
Come on, man. That's a stretch. Just admit you missed the boat here. Not only did you not read the thread, you glossed over the details just like I did.

We both said "read the book" without actually having read it.
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Puts you at the full line. If it was meant to be kept between the holes, stated capacity to be used for an oil change would bring it to that level.
"Oil CAPACITY" "Drain and refill REFERENCE" still do not me must be to that level.

I repeat. I agree with you it should be kept full but there is not one single thing in the manuals saying that it must be. The manual is very clear on the subject.
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The oil sticking to the dip stick is a mechanical action as opposed to an electronic one.

me·chan·i·cal
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And where is it?
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The oil sticking to the dip stick is a mechanical action as opposed to an electronic one.

me·chan·i·cal
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adjective: mechanical
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"the smoothness was the result of mechanical abrasion"
Is that why your dip stick has no marks? Mechanical abrasion?
I think I am beginning to understand - and it scares me.
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The manual is saying wait more than five minutes before checking the level.. how many more minutes after five minutes? The wait will influence where the friggin oil is on the "mechanical" thingamajig.


Has anyone mentioned 'level ground'?

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The oil sticking to the dip stick is a mechanical action as opposed to an electronic one.
I'm pretty sure adhesion is caused by the electromagnetic force... Granted, it's all the same thing, but you are better off calling it a viscous action.

On the plus side, now we are good for at least 3 more pages.
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Oil consumption in modern engines is normal:


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