Very loose rear end (Handling)

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

@Kronos, nevermind the fluid change but do heed the owner's manual's guidance in the future. It may not be tragic to drive in a constant turn but it certainly isn't doing anything to extend the life of the diff.

This was my point all along!

[Gforce]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The issue isn't that driving with a doughnut is dangerous it is whether you can run it on the drive wheel of a LTD. You said I would find nothing. I found about 100 that all say the same. Of course linking them would be a waste of time since you would just say they were all made up anyway. The recommended speed is on the non drive wheel.

And Subaru says their space saver is 135/80x16 which is 0.5% smaller than stock size of 215/45x17.

It's hilarious. You just cannot admit you're wrong. Even when you're conceding that you are you manage to make up some justification for how you're not really wrong. Just give up the bone.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Gforce

And Subaru says their space saver is 135/80x16 which is 0.5% smaller than stock size of 215/45x17.

It's hilarious. You just cannot admit you're wrong. Even when you're conceding that you are you manage to make up some justification for how you're not really wrong. Just give up the bone.

The fact remains they recommend that you don't use them on the drive wheel. That is not "wrong", it is the documented recommendation of the manufacturer. I am not going to post the many links that state that even a torsen diff can have issues running a spare that is even slightly different. It is bad advice to say that it is OK.

[WRBrzRX]

Originally Posted by Gforce

That's because the Supersports is the best tire you can buy unless you want the Sport Cup.

is this real life

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

This was my point all along!

Hey, I never said it was okie dokey to be driving on the donut at all. I don't disagree with the manual but I'm more interested in understanding why these instructions are written.

I am willing to entertain the idea that it doesn't do as much damage as I originally believed but I'm still not convinced my understanding of the torsen is wrong. You know me, though. I'll own it either way.

[humfrz]

WOW! So much for my question ......



humfrz

[ZZT86]

^^ that's too funny

[Gforce]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The fact remains they recommend that you don't use them on the drive wheel. That is not "wrong", it is the documented recommendation of the manufacturer. I am not going to post the many links that state that even a torsen diff can have issues running a spare that is even slightly different. It is bad advice to say that it is OK.

Who is "they"?

You're totally hooped if you've got awd then eh?

Just post one link from a car maker or a tire maker that supports your statements.

There are none, zero.

[Gforce]

Originally Posted by humfrz

WOW! So much for my question ......



humfrz

That's an ok set up because of the caster being so good.

The owner's manual for the the Golf specifically warns their owners not to fit that type of spare to the front axle,(or drive axle if awd is fitted), the torque steer becomes unmanageable, even for a skilled driver.

Finally, the speed limit and maximum distance restrictions will be insufficient for you to leave the shopping centre parking lot.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Gforce

Who is "they"?

You're totally hooped if you've got awd then eh?

Just post one link from a car maker or a tire maker that supports your statements.

There are none, zero.

One of hundreds. I am not posting them all for you since your statement is there are "zero".

[Gforce]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

One of hundreds. I am not posting them all for you since your statement is there are "zero".

And, sorry, the type of LSD fitted to the "Si" is?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Gforce

Who is "they"?

You're totally hooped if you've got awd then eh?

Just post one link from a car maker or a tire maker that supports your statements.

There are none, zero.

Originally Posted by Gforce

And, sorry, the type of LSD fitted to the "Si" is?

Doesn't really matter what I put in front of you does it?
Agreed that a torsen is a bit more forgiving than other types but that does not mean it is perfectly OK to run a spare on the drive.






PEOPLE - Follow the instructions in the manual not what some joker on the internet tells you.
End of story.

[Gforce]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Doesn't really matter what I put in front of you does it?
Agreed that a torsen is a bit more forgiving than other types but that does not mean it is perfectly OK to run a spare on the drive.






PEOPLE - Follow the instructions in the manual not what some joker on the internet tells you.
End of story.

I don't think Honda uses a Torsen.

Since the BRZ uses a Lexus Torsen this video may be of interest:

[ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OSo8tEsG2oU[/ame]

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Gforce

I don't think Honda uses a Torsen.

The clip was specific to the Si.
See if you can find it on this list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsen


Should I go pull all those other car manuals for you?


You wanted a link to a car with a torsen that said running the spare could damage it. I gave you a link to a car with a torsen differential with a statement that the spare could damage it. You naturally wish to disbelieve it even though it is in black and white.