O.F.T or ecutek?

[DAEMANO]

This thread has been remarkably civil. Let's keep it going.

[Shady195]

If you plan on staying N/A then I would 100% recommend the OFT without hesitation for the OTS maps.

If you at anypoint plan on going FI, i would make the investment in ECUTek now rather than later.

This is coming from someone whos been tuned on both OFT and ECUTek for both N/A and Turbo applications.

[Chronology]

Originally Posted by phrosty

Ecutek is definitely worth the money if you can pay for a ton of dyno time.

I initially would agree with you, but being NA, for now, I went with ECUTek and had MotoEast do a tune for me remotely. However, my end goal is going S/C so I figured while I was "saving" I would invest a bit now and chip away at the cost of the S/C.

At the end of the day, you can get a solid tune around 400-500 bucks, at that point and cost its worth it due to FI requirements and well you don't want to blow up with that much cash into the car if you can help it.

IMHO if you are planning on seriously going to FI (10k+ in $$$) then start off right and go with ECUTek, if you don't see putting that much cash into the car, then stick with OFT.

Before my inbox explodes - 10k comes in with JRSC/Big pully/Injectors/Fuel pump, clutch, install + tune(s). I added the + because you WILL break shit or need to increase your car maintenance Oil/spark plugs/clutch/tires etc. when sooner with FI.

[Detroiter]

Everyone says to go ECUTek if you plan on going FI at some point so I'm curious if there is any reasons other than that you'll already have a ECUTek cable then. If I go with OFT for while I'm NA and then go with a turbo kit down the line is there any drawbacks to switching to ECUTek?

[MurderousPandas]

Originally Posted by Detroiter

Everyone says to go ECUTek if you plan on going FI at some point so I'm curious if there is any reasons other than that you'll already have a ECUTek cable then. If I go with OFT for while I'm NA and then go with a turbo kit down the line is there any drawbacks to switching to ECUTek?

None at all, it's just flashing an ECU.

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[steve99]

Originally Posted by Detroiter

Everyone says to go ECUTek if you plan on going FI at some point so I'm curious if there is any reasons other than that you'll already have a ECUTek cable then. If I go with OFT for while I'm NA and then go with a turbo kit down the line is there any drawbacks to switching to ECUTek?

OFT and ecutek are devices/systems to flash a tune. Ecutek has some ectra features due to the ecutek guys writing extra program code (racerom)

however the OFT guys now have

overboost cut
Flex fuel
launch
FFS
and SD tuning available.

Their no reason you could not use OFT for tuning on the FI kits supported by OFT.

OFT main support is for the SBD turbo kit. so if thats the kit you want then no problem.

They also support some SC kits vortech and a couple of others.

Ask the oft guys if their is support for your proposed kit, if so then oft is no problem.

If it a different kit not supported then your likely better going ecutek due to the larger number of supported kits and larger avaiability of ecutek tuners.

As the oft guys are probably the only guys who will tune forced induction with oft.

If your using oft for NA then your other option is to flash back to stock to unmarry oft, then you can sell your oft and they sell very well for little loss. This is one of the big advantages of oft the resale value. so even if you switch out of oft you will loose little. Ecutek the only thing you can onsell is cable kit , the tunes and liciences are not transferable.


have a read here got a bit of info on pricing and features etc http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106068

[phrosty]

Originally Posted by Detroiter

Everyone says to go ECUTek if you plan on going FI at some point so I'm curious if there is any reasons other than that you'll already have a ECUTek cable then. If I go with OFT for while I'm NA and then go with a turbo kit down the line is there any drawbacks to switching to ECUTek?

Openflash tunes can be completely reset to stock, so money aside there are no drawbacks to switching to Ecutek later on.

In the past, people have recommended Ecutek because Openflash hasn't supported many FI kits. Ecutek, in comparison, you can go to any competent tuner and get a tune for whatever kit you have. Openflash supports a larger variety of blowers these days, but still not all of them.

[Shady195]

Originally Posted by Detroiter

Everyone says to go ECUTek if you plan on going FI at some point so I'm curious if there is any reasons other than that you'll already have a ECUTek cable then. If I go with OFT for while I'm NA and then go with a turbo kit down the line is there any drawbacks to switching to ECUTek?

Not at all other than money and convenience when its time to switch.

[Shady195]

Originally Posted by steve99

however the OFT guys now have

overboost cut
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Unless something new has happened in the past few months, its not really overboost cut...

It's a check engine light that comes on and thats it.

[steve99]

Originally Posted by Shady195

Unless something new has happened in the past few months, its not really overboost cut...

It's a check engine light that comes on and thats it.

ztan the guy that did flex also enabled MAP (pressure based overboot cut, ie boost over a limit as measured by MAP, will completly cut fuel ie no power.

to access the overboost setting you need a special definition that references the code change in rom

this is in addition to the timing and maf(load) based limiting

it was done back in 2015

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2351475

[Shady195]

Originally Posted by steve99

ztan the guy that did flex also enabled MAP (pressure based overboot cut, ie boost over a limit as measured by MAP, will completly cut fuel ie no power.

to access the overboost setting you need a special definition that references the code change in rom

this is in addition to the timing and maf(load) based limiting

it was done back in 2015

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2351475

This is something that can be done by the end user though, this is not something to the best of my knowledge Shiv has enabled on his own maps.

Up until my move to ECUtek the only "overboost" protection I h ad from the OFT was a check engine light if i creeped past 12 PSI

[steve99]

Originally Posted by Shady195

This is something that can be done by the end user though, this is not something to the best of my knowledge Shiv has enabled on his own maps.

Up until my move to ECUtek the only "overboost" protection I h ad from the OFT was a check engine light if i creeped past 12 PSI

Yes for sure unless you have knowledge its not possible to add that functionality. But like Ecutek most people don't do their own FI tunes.


so if you got the OFT boosted tune from shiv pretty sure all the oft 350 or sbd 10psi plus tune have it as well as flex fuel) it will have overboost cut installed. The early lower boost tunes didn't have it.


just like if you got Tune from ecutek tuner.




Tuners love ecutek cause they can lock tunes and also because features like this are added by ecutek, and the end user/tuner doesn't have to fiddle with code. They just tune and flash.


The good thing about OFT or Tactrix and opensource stuff is the end user can see whats going on in the tune and could possibly make minor adjustments or tweaks themselves. I would also say the competition keeps prices down.


If the ecutek guys had a monopoly I doubt you would be getting ecutek tunes as cheap as they currently are on this platform.


completion and choice is always a good thing to have :-)

[CatDaddysBBQ]

Get a OFT. See how you like it. For many, it's plenty. Ive been happy with mine for over a year.

If you do "grow out of it", sell it for like 60 bucks less than you paid (going rate for used ones is easily 400+), and go ecutek.

[TheBRZsKnees]

I was happy with OFT while I was NA. Then I completely spaced and forgot to unmarry my tablet when I switched over to Ecutek for FI, making it useless. I contacted Shiv, and he said the best he could do would be to sell me another one at a discounted price if I sent mine back to him. The $500 paperweight of an OFT that I have sitting at home now definitely makes me regret bothering with it at all.