Check engine light just came on after 2k miles.

[Bonburner]

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere

I never had this problem when I lived in MI, but out here in CA I find if I stray from Shell or Chevron you can get bad fuel. Stations like Rotten Robbie and other cheaper stations would throw CEL in my GTI, which is a DI motor.

How was the drive with 76, ARCO, or Costco?

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by LaserMon

Just to share my similar story...
Day -186: Pre-ordered the FRS with deposit.
Day -17: Was told that my car will be delayed due to owner's manual recall!?!
Day 1: Picked up the car.
Day 1: CEL came on within 10kms from dealership.
... Thank you very much Scion ....

I really feel for you...its a shame even tho i know its the 1st year,i feel like stuff like cam sensors shouldnt be happening with a motor with so many unusual elements. You would think R&D would have been much tighter than this...now lets see how the BRZ's fair since more baches of them are coming in.Im hoping this isnt a Subaru manufacturing a Subaru better than a Toyota,similar things happened with the DSM's with Mitsubishi and Chrysler...

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by Oriental Life

Oh, now you remembered that its a Subaru! :-) How about the fact that issue may lay in the ONLY part that Toyota provided - DI. :-)

You guys make me smile:happy0180:

Me personally im hoping its this....fewer parts by them means less to diagnose.

[Tbomb 25]

To be honest until DI i've never known a engine with a 12.5.1 compression to run on 93 and definetly not 91.

[Moto-P]

Originally Posted by danthedirt

Actually after looking over the manual again, its the Slip indicator light that is stuck on. The same light that comes on when your TS and SC kicks in.

In the manual in the fine print reads:
If indicator does not turn off within a few seconds of starting engine, there may be a
malfunction. Have vehicle inspected by your Scion or Toyota dealer.

Im going to update my OP.

ON most Denso ECU cars, the VSC and TRC will turn off if the ECU is in diagnostic mode (check engine) so that the throttle is more reliable without intervention. THis is normal when the engine has issues.
It has nothing to do with malfunction of the VSC/TRC modules, as it is OFF only because the ECU is throwing a check code.

It does this on my LS430 and Sienna too, when I trigger a code myself. Hasn't happened to my FRS but I am sure it is the same case.

Also, as far as the core cause of what might be happening. There are MANY MANY reported cases of bad/polluted gasoline that causes injection system issues, especially GDI equipped cars. It might not be the car itself but the bad batch of gas. Even a well-known brand like Chevron and Shell, sometimes have stations that have water in the tanks or pollutants like rusty bits or other leaks, that get introduced to the tank. Might want to look into that too, if the check code is related to intake system or injection systems, or something off on the KNK or O2 sensor readings that are causing the light.


My buddy had the said thing happen to him with a 4 months old Toyota Venza GDI 4 Cyl. Intake manifold pressure became abnormal and O2 went off the charts as fuel system got clogged. It was traced to fine particles of rust in the tank and pollutants in the gasoline, which could only have come from a gas station pump. Upon tracing it with fuel station, it turned out that there were 4 other claims at the same station for the same issue...
Toyota normally will not warranty it in that case, and he basically had the gas station and Chevron pay him back for all repairs and rental car costs for the weeks his car was missing at diagnostics. Check the last fuel pump you used and ask for the gas station's fuel supplier and contact. Oil companies are really quick to pay for any damages, as this is a drop in the bucket to them, really... Just in case.

[Hanzo]

I've been using Shell premium since my 1st tank of gas from 3 different Shell stations so i don't think that's the problem.

[danthedirt]

Just got a call from my Service Rep. First off he said that he called their headquarters and got me approved to upgrade my loaner car sine the FR-S is so new. Stuck at work, so that'll have to wait till tomorrow. HE said they have a Toyota Rep on site that is overseeing the work as well, and the SR ensured that they we're doing everything they could to get my FR-S back to me. Went on to tell me that they won't be able to get parts till Mon at the earliest. I then asked if he could provide me with the codes they were pulling off my car. the SR said that there are some standard codes that comes up but the one that the Toyota Rep was interested in was the code that they kept pulling off, evening after clearing in out.
P0019

I feel better knowing that Toyota has getting involved with my service, and i know with all the issues they've had the last few years (acceleration, floor mats, etc.) they are going to do whatever it takes to get this resolved. Despite that though I'm going to reserve judgment till I get my car back from them and put a few hundred more miles on her.

[Mishimoto]

Originally Posted by danthedirt

Just got a call from my Service Rep. First off he said that he called their headquarters and got me approved to upgrade my loaner car sine the FR-S is so new. Stuck at work, so that'll have to wait till tomorrow. HE said they have a Toyota Rep on site that is overseeing the work as well, and the SR ensured that they we're doing everything they could to get my FR-S back to me. Went on to tell me that they won't be able to get parts till Mon at the earliest. I then asked if he could provide me with the codes they were pulling off my car. the SR said that there are some standard codes that comes up but the one that the Toyota Rep was interested in was the code that they kept pulling off, evening after clearing in out.
P0019

I feel better knowing that Toyota has getting involved with my service, and i know with all the issues they've had the last few years (acceleration, floor mats, etc.) they are going to do whatever it takes to get this resolved. Despite that though I'm going to reserve judgment till I get my car back from them and put a few hundred more miles on her.

Good to know they are concerned about the issue and taking steps to handle it. Keep us updated, hang in there.

[Lonewolf]

P0019 TOYOTA - Crankshaft Position Camshaft Position Correlation Bank 2 Sensor 'B'

Lasermon and danthedirt have had almost the same exact code so far.

I think the other one was P0018...(Sensor "A" instead of "B")

[Spaceywilly]

Here is the page of the service manual that correlates with P0019. Not sure there is anything in there that will help you at this point but it might give you some good reading materials while you wait to get your car back

[Max Schnell]

Service manual seems to indicate VVT related to the oil control, ECM or the gear itself. I read the list of tests and its basically your standard process of elimination. Service tech is going to have to manually go through each test to try to eliminate the possible causes.

looks like the cause of code is based upon the intake or exhaust cam being out of permitted operating range for certain periods of time as read by the sensors.

[Spaceywilly]

yeah it seems like the most likely cause is the cam being off by a tooth.

[Midship Runabout]

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

yeah it seems like the most likely cause is the cam being off by a tooth.

I highly doubt that.

[Hanzo]

Just got back from driving around, it's 108 degrees outside and the chirping noise seems to come on and off at different stop lights and sometimes disappear during idle all together (when I pulled into my garage). Wonder if there is anything temperature related. I'm going to go out and drive some more to see if it comes back or not. BTW I now have 1360 miles.