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Old 03-03-2017, 11:34 AM   #3361
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Be carefull with this. While nima314 is not incorrect, he is missing some vital information.

While you can fit that wide wheels/tires, it will poke when you're on stock suspension. if you're not planning on lowering your car, I would not go for a 8.75 +33 in the front.

I'll link you some pictures of a 18x8.75 +35 Setup with 245 tires so you can see what I mean. Your setup, being a +33, will stick out 2mm more than this

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=75
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=98


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Also, tires are 245/35/18 not 245/40/18 (unless you want to offset your speedo and "lift" your car because the diameter is to big)
Thank you for this information,
So my original plan of have 18x7.5 38 offset at the front,tire being 225/40r18 is ok or should that be 35 as well

and when im searching for tires, they dont have much options for combos with the rear being 245/35r18 but lots of options for 245/40r18
- you mentioned that it will lift my car, by how much? and if i do go with 245/40 will it be a problem?
Understanding that a different diameter, I did find a site that shows the diameter sizes
https://tiresize.com/chart/
So for the FRS stock tires are 24" diameter
Then I would need a 225/35r18 and 245/35r18. Would that be correct?


And I wanted to lower it but I thought some people say that if you go with 18 rims lowering the car isn't recommended. I was thinking of getting cools down the road.

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Old 03-03-2017, 10:48 PM   #3362
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Thank you for this information,
So my original plan of have 18x7.5 38 offset at the front,tire being 225/40r18 is ok or should that be 35 as well

and when im searching for tires, they dont have much options for combos with the rear being 245/35r18 but lots of options for 245/40r18
- you mentioned that it will lift my car, by how much? and if i do go with 245/40 will it be a problem?
Understanding that a different diameter, I did find a site that shows the diameter sizes
https://tiresize.com/chart/
So for the FRS stock tires are 24" diameter
Then I would need a 225/35r18 and 245/35r18. Would that be correct?


And I wanted to lower it but I thought some people say that if you go with 18 rims lowering the car isn't recommended. I was thinking of getting cools down the road.
Alot of things here to answer, so lets start point by point:
"So my original plan of have 18x7.5 38 offset at the front,tire being 225/40r18 is ok or should that be 35 as well " -> +35 or +38 is only 3mm difference, so it does not really matter.

"- you mentioned that it will lift my car, by how much? and if i do go with 245/40 will it be a problem? " -> a 245/40 will raise your car about 1.4cm and puts your speedo 4.5% off. I would not recommend this

"Then I would need a 225/35r18 and 245/35r18. Would that be correct? " -> yes

"And I wanted to lower it but I thought some people say that if you go with 18 rims lowering the car isn't recommended. I was thinking of getting cools down the road." -> Not sure who tells you shit like this
Wheelsize and lowering a car has almost nothing to do with each other. (the ride gets a bit stiffer, but thats the idea behind lowering a car) And also if springs or coilovers depends on what you want to do with the car.
So for a start, 18" wheels and lowering the car work perfectly fine. Now if you go for springs or coils is up to you. As a daily driver to get a more sporty look, springs are more than sufficent. Coilovers are only needed if you want to setup your car for a track, or if you want to drive a very very agressiv wheel setup.


Now that said, may I ask you why you want to go for a staggered setup with 7.5" front and 8.75" in the rear? why not a square setup?

For example, on stock suspension, a 8.5x18 square looks perfectly good if you take an offset of +44 -> http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15883


Or a 8.75x18 square with Offset +35 when the car is lowered and has a little camber -> http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=151
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Alot of things here to answer, so lets start point by point:
"So my original plan of have 18x7.5 38 offset at the front,tire being 225/40r18 is ok or should that be 35 as well " -> +35 or +38 is only 3mm difference, so it does not really matter.

"- you mentioned that it will lift my car, by how much? and if i do go with 245/40 will it be a problem? " -> a 245/40 will raise your car about 1.4cm and puts your speedo 4.5% off. I would not recommend this

"Then I would need a 225/35r18 and 245/35r18. Would that be correct? " -> yes

"And I wanted to lower it but I thought some people say that if you go with 18 rims lowering the car isn't recommended. I was thinking of getting cools down the road." -> Not sure who tells you shit like this
Wheelsize and lowering a car has almost nothing to do with each other. (the ride gets a bit stiffer, but thats the idea behind lowering a car) And also if springs or coilovers depends on what you want to do with the car.
So for a start, 18" wheels and lowering the car work perfectly fine. Now if you go for springs or coils is up to you. As a daily driver to get a more sporty look, springs are more than sufficent. Coilovers are only needed if you want to setup your car for a track, or if you want to drive a very very agressiv wheel setup.


Now that said, may I ask you why you want to go for a staggered setup with 7.5" front and 8.75" in the rear? why not a square setup?

For example, on stock suspension, a 8.5x18 square looks perfectly good if you take an offset of +44 -> http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15883


Or a 8.75x18 square with Offset +35 when the car is lowered and has a little camber -> http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=151


Wow that helps and explains alot.

And it's really the wheels that I'm looking at
I'm looking at the xxr 530 and they come in weird sizes
I was only able to get 8.75 or 7.5 for 18 inch wheels

and i was told that with the front being 18x8.75, it would have clearance issues or rubbing issues.
i wanted to go with a square set up.

So would be it ok if I got a 18x8.75 33 offset all around?
With the first link you showed me
Of your wingo, is that stock?
Other then the poke, which for the time being will be ok, is there going to be technical problems, clearance or rubbing issues or is the poke just it.
Cause if it is im fine with it.
Looking at lowering with coils later within next year at most

And ive been getting so much different information, so I've figured it's best I just post a thread on here for some help
Which u helped a lot

So I guess ultimately it would come down to
Would I be able to put 18x8.75 33 offset with 245/35r18 all around
Without rubbing or clearance issues
I will look at lowering this summer as well

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Old 03-04-2017, 09:40 AM   #3364
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Wow that helps and explains alot.

And it's really the wheels that I'm looking at
I'm looking at the xxr 530 and they come in weird sizes
I was only able to get 8.75 or 7.5 for 18 inch wheels

and i was told that with the front being 18x8.75, it would have clearance issues or rubbing issues.
i wanted to go with a square set up.

So would be it ok if I got a 18x8.75 33 offset all around?
With the first link you showed me
Of your wingo, is that stock?
Other then the poke, which for the time being will be ok, is there going to be technical problems, clearance or rubbing issues or is the poke just it.
Cause if it is im fine with it.
Looking at lowering with coils later within next year at most

And ive been getting so much different information, so I've figured it's best I just post a thread on here for some help
Which u helped a lot

So I guess ultimately it would come down to
Would I be able to put 18x8.75 33 offset with 245/35r18 all around
Without rubbing or clearance issues
I will look at lowering this summer as well

"So I guess ultimately it would come down to
Would I be able to put 18x8.75 33 offset with 245/35r18 all around
Without rubbing or clearance issues" -> Yes, this works without any issues, no rubbing, and it works either on stock or lowered on springs (and also on coilovers of course)

As you already mentioned, it will stick out a bit on stock suspension, but it will not rub on the inner struit, nor outside on the fender.

And yes, its more or less the same setup I had on wingo at the start (mine is +35 offset, so your +33 will "stick out" 2mm more)

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=75
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=98

So if you're ok with the poking then go for it, its a very good setup for the twins, however I really would suggest lowering the car somewhere down the road.

Cheers, and hope this helped
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Old 03-04-2017, 10:38 AM   #3365
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Hello

Trying to fit Varrstoen ES1 staggered onto my 2017 86.

18x8.5 front, 18x9.5 rear

Bolt patterns available from ft86motorsports are 5x100, x112 and x114. Which one do I need for which end? Is there anything else I would need? Thank you!
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Trying to fit Varrstoen ES1 staggered onto my 2017 86.

18x8.5 front, 18x9.5 rear

Bolt patterns available from ft86motorsports are 5x100, x112 and x114. Which one do I need for which end? Is there anything else I would need? Thank you!
You will need 5x100.

What offset do the wheels have? This is rather important aswell
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Thanks for the reply.

+35 and theres another number: 73.1. Not sure what that one means

It looks like they don't have a 18x9.5 in a 5x100 listed on ft86mototsports but varrstoen do make it. I'll ask if they can get it.
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Thanks for the reply.

+35 and theres another number: 73.1. Not sure what that one means

It looks like they don't have a 18x9.5 in a 5x100 listed on ft86mototsports but varrstoen do make it. I'll ask if they can get it.
8.5 + 35 front and 9.5 +35 rear works, however you will need to lower the car/get some camber otherwise it will poke about 5mm in the front (also depending a bit on the tires you're going for)
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8.5 + 35 front and 9.5 +35 rear works, however you will need to lower the car/get some camber otherwise it will poke about 5mm in the front (also depending a bit on the tires you're going for)
I'm keeping the stock suspension though. I don't think it's adjustable camber wise, is it? And actually FT86motorsports people convinced me to go square set up. So now I'm gonna go 8.5 all around. Does this mean I'll need spacers in the back?
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I'm keeping the stock suspension though. I don't think it's adjustable camber wise, is it? And actually FT86motorsports people convinced me to go square set up. So now I'm gonna go 8.5 all around. Does this mean I'll need spacers in the back?
You can adjust camber in the front with camber bolts. If you're stock suspension, 8.5 in the rear will be fine without spacers.
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"So I guess ultimately it would come down to
Would I be able to put 18x8.75 33 offset with 245/35r18 all around
Without rubbing or clearance issues" -> Yes, this works without any issues, no rubbing, and it works either on stock or lowered on springs (and also on coilovers of course)

As you already mentioned, it will stick out a bit on stock suspension, but it will not rub on the inner struit, nor outside on the fender.

And yes, its more or less the same setup I had on wingo at the start (mine is +35 offset, so your +33 will "stick out" 2mm more)

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=75
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=98

So if you're ok with the poking then go for it, its a very good setup for the twins, however I really would suggest lowering the car somewhere down the road.

Cheers, and hope this helped
This helps a lot
thank you for taking the time to help me with this
I will go with the all round 8.75 cause I do plan on lowering it as well so that now the poke is fine
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Hello,

Was wondering if I could fit

Bbs style 5 17x8 et+20 wrapped in Yokohama s-drives 235/40/17 on stock suspension.
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