Jack stands help

[demasrv]

Originally Posted by zc06_kisstherain

what is jack stands? huh?

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How much did that lift set you back?

Also--why not just ramps if the jack stands are giving you so much trouble?

[zc06_kisstherain]

Originally Posted by demasrv

How much did that lift set you back?

Also--why not just ramps if the jack stands are giving you so much trouble?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86627

[track junkie]

Originally Posted by zc06_kisstherain

what is jack stands? huh?

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Not enough weight capacity safety margin for me. Just a 5000 lb limit.
I will take the Esco 3 ton jack stand and 24,000 lb weight capacity for four stands.
It's 10 times less expensive, almost 5 times greater safety margin and much easier to move and store.

[cat94]

Thanks for the info. If I'm ever doing major work under the car, I'll definitely pick up a set of the Esco stands (or equivalent). I guess for now since I'm only using them for oil changes I'll stick with the harbor freight jack stands and will just paint over the pinch welds occasionally.

[zc06_kisstherain]

Originally Posted by track junkie

Not enough weight capacity safety margin for me. Just a 5000 lb limit.
I will take the Esco 3 ton jack stand and 24,000 lb weight capacity for four stands.
It's 10 times less expensive, almost 5 times greater safety margin and much easier to move and store.

i dont know if you read detailed info on quickjack but if you feel that way then eco 3 ton jack is better for you

yes 10 times less expensive so there is cons for quickjack

I feel much safer to use quickjack and faster to lift.
another alternative is http://www.ezcarlift.com/

[rice_classic]

Just looked at the EZ carlift. Would rather QuickJack personally (and probably will because racecar).

I'm not sure why people concern themselves about their pinch welds/jack points. They're freakin' pinch welds! They are under the car, designed to bare weight and get a bit roughed up. Of all the things to concern oneself about this, this shouldn't be one. Jack the car up, get on with business. It's not a Picasso.. it's a Scion (or Subaru).

[switchlanez]

I use the Torin stands. Left my car on a pair for a week at a time in front then rear. I think they are ANSI certified if that's of any significance. I like the base design which looks like it distributes the load over a flat base versus other stands that concentrate weight on 3 or 4 points. Potential danger is if the ground isn't hard enough the concentrated points may sink into the ground.

[Yardjass]

Originally Posted by track junkie

Not enough weight capacity safety margin for me. Just a 5000 lb limit.
I will take the Esco 3 ton jack stand and 24,000 lb weight capacity for four stands.
It's 10 times less expensive, almost 5 times greater safety margin and much easier to move and store.

Both of those factors of safety are more than sufficient. You have to keep in mind that the factor of safety on the item to begin with is greater than 1 so you're stacking factors of safety on top of factors of safety. Being able to lift 2x the weight with another factor of safety present is more than sufficient.




On the jack, I own both and the quick jack is starting to be more trouble than its worth. One of the cylinders developed a leak into the little pressurized air pocket part that pushes the struts back down, and you could see system fluid when you bled the little air nipple. They completely ignored my email to the published tech support email posted on their website about it and it wasn't until I contacted flyin' Miata that I finally got some help. FM told me the vendor was gonna be nice since I was just over the warranty period, and they had shipped out a replacement. The thing is the actual failure and the first email about it that I never got an answer to, were within the timeline. I still haven't gotten around to installing the replacement they sent but I probably used the damn thing less than 10 times and most of them were to lift a Miata so I don't have much faith they are going to last.


It is great to be able to hit a button to lift something and put it back down but they're a pain to move into place, a pain to store, a pain to set up and bleed, and just a general pain. It isn't that hard to use a low profile floor jack and stands so that's what I do most of the time now. Maybe one day I'll get an actual lift installed in the garage.

[track junkie]

Originally Posted by Yardjass

Both of those factors of safety are more than sufficient. You have to keep in mind that the factor of safety on the item to begin with is greater than 1 so you're stacking factors of safety on top of factors of safety. Being able to lift 2x the weight with another factor of safety present is more than sufficient.

On the jack, I own both and the quick jack is starting to be more trouble than its worth. One of the cylinders developed a leak into the little pressurized air pocket part that pushes the struts back down, and you could see system fluid when you bled the little air nipple. They completely ignored my email to the published tech support email posted on their website about it and it wasn't until I contacted flyin' Miata that I finally got some help. FM told me the vendor was gonna be nice since I was just over the warranty period, and they had shipped out a replacement. The thing is the actual failure and the first email about it that I never got an answer to, were within the timeline. I still haven't gotten around to installing the replacement they sent but I probably used the damn thing less than 10 times and most of them were to lift a Miata so I don't have much faith they are going to last.


It is great to be able to hit a button to lift something and put it back down but they're a pain to move into place, a pain to store, a pain to set up and bleed, and just a general pain. It isn't that hard to use a low profile floor jack and stands so that's what I do most of the time now. Maybe one day I'll get an actual lift installed in the garage.

Well designed stuff can still fail due to poor workmanship and how many of us check the weld quality on our jack stands?
It's a balance of the value of your life vs an extra safety margin. It's cheap life insurance. The stronger the better.

[Yardjass]

Originally Posted by track junkie

Well designed stuff can still fail due to poor workmanship and how many of us check the weld quality on our jack stands?
It's a balance of the value of your life vs an extra safety margin. It's cheap life insurance. The stronger the better.

It's also unnecessary. If you think something as expensive and as expensive, low volume, and potentially dangerous as a quick jack leaves the factory without a QA inspection and load test, you're kidding yourself.

[Votlon]

Whoa you guys are nuts, I'll trust my pinch welds to hold over hockey pucks all day .-.