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cat94 01-26-2017 06:43 PM

Jack stands help
 
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Hello,

Does anyone have any experience with the Torin Aluminum Jack Stands? (https://www.amazon.com/Torin-T43004-...ct_top?ie=UTF8)

The reason why I'm thinking of getting a set of these is because I'm looking for a flat-top style jack stand.

I picked up a set of Harbor Freight jack stands and jack stand pads in an attempt to protect the paint on the pinch welds, but they ended up stripping more of the paint than if I had bare metal to metal contact. One of the pinch welds also has a slight bend to it (probably my fault). Does anyone have any advice on preventing pinch weld bending (specifically on flat-top stands)? I've since stopped caring so much about the paint, though will still paint over it occasionally with some ceramic paint or undercoating to prevent rust.

Also, it seems like the jack stand was partially/fully supported by the area just inside the pinch weld (what is that residue? seems like it was there to fill some holes/prevent scratching by the stock jack). I've seen mixed opinions on whether or not this is safe. It appears some people even go as far as turning their jack stands 90 degrees and supporting their cars with only that area.

Ben_G 01-26-2017 07:12 PM

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So here's my take on it. If you look at the factory emergency jack, the pinch weld is used ONLY to locate it inboard/outboard on the car. The jack itself doesn't even touch the pinchweld vertically. All the weight is supported by the pad just inside the pinch weld.

The pinch weld is used only because it's easier than trying to correctly position a jack/jack stand behind it.

I think that's the REAL jacking point, not the pinch weld. in fact, I believe this enough that i made this: Attachment 148748


I don't recommend turning the jackstand sideways though....that's just asking for trouble when it slips off.

cat94 01-26-2017 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben_G (Post 2840013)
So here's my take on it. If you look at the factory emergency jack, the pinch weld is used ONLY to locate it inboard/outboard on the car. The jack itself doesn't even touch the pinchweld vertically. All the weight is supported by the pad just inside the pinch weld.

The pinch weld is used only because it's easier than trying to correctly position a jack/jack stand behind it.

I think that's the REAL jacking point, not the pinch weld. in fact, I believe this enough that i made this: Attachment 148748


I don't recommend turning the jackstand sideways though....that's just asking for trouble when it slips off.

Those look great. If only they made jack stands in that shape.

Do you place those on top of your jack stands and let friction keep them in place?

I know there are some adapters out there for the jack itself to lift from behind the pinch weld, but I'm skeptical on placing those on Y shaped jack stands.

Ben_G 01-26-2017 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cat94 (Post 2840024)
Those look great. If only they made jack stands in that shape.

Do you place those on top of your jack stands and let friction keep them in place?

I know there are some adapters out there for the jack itself to lift from behind the pinch weld, but I'm skeptical on placing those on Y shaped jack stands.

I'm actually one of those daredevils that don't use jackstands and just lift the car with the jack only..... =( but mostly because I only really do tire changes and not much more.

If I were to make these fit on a jack stand, I'd probably weld on some two inch skirts so that they won't slide/pop off the stand head?

cat94 01-26-2017 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben_G (Post 2840103)
I'm actually one of those daredevils that don't use jackstands and just lift the car with the jack only..... =( but mostly because I only really do tire changes and not much more.

If I were to make these fit on a jack stand, I'd probably weld on some two inch skirts so that they won't slide/pop off the stand head?

I see, I wish I had some more tools to machine my own solution. Unfortunately, it would probably be cheaper to get a set of Esco jack stands ($50-70/ea?)

Marat 01-26-2017 10:59 PM

Made these out of hockey pucks so I can protect my rockers.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...psobeemvej.jpg

bee-jay 01-27-2017 12:38 PM

https://smile.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb...=3E717NPQXVYN1

Capt Spaulding 01-27-2017 09:26 PM

The Torins scare the weeee out of me. I ended up buying 4 ESCO stands.

https://www.amazon.com/ESCO-10498-Ja...co+jack+stands

They're rock steady, have a slotted rubber cushion over the top plate to protect the pinch welds and support 3 tons each. What's not to like?

Not cheap, but IMHO well worth it.

Sideways 01-27-2017 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Marat (Post 2840188)
Made these out of hockey pucks so I can protect my rockers.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...psobeemvej.jpg

I have the similar setup. Bought hockey pucks from dollar store and made these.

Stang70Fastback 01-28-2017 04:06 AM

I second the ESCO stands. I bought four of them. A bit of an investment, but ABSOLUTELY worth it.

Yardjass 01-28-2017 05:29 AM

Third vote for the ESCO stands. My Z has been sitting on them for the past month or so while I swap the engine and redo the undercoating, and I absolutely love them. They don't seem to adjust as low as a conventional jack stand but they go low enough for me.

track junkie 01-29-2017 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cat94 (Post 2840151)
I see, I wish I had some more tools to machine my own solution. Unfortunately, it would probably be cheaper to get a set of Esco jack stands ($50-70/ea?)

The Esco jack stands, ESC-10498, I just received yesterday cost $133.15 for a set of four delivered.
That's $31.05 each and only $8.95 shipping for all four.
The company, link provided, is almost out of stock.
They seem to sell them fast at this price. This is the best price I have found.
It's an extremely strong jack stand. Extra safe!

Note the photo below is from the manufacturers website and is what I received.
The photo on coastal tool supply website, link below, shows the old model which had only 5 adjustable positions. They shipped me the current 10 adjustable position model.

http://www.coastaltoolsupply.com/product/ESC-10498.html

http://esco.net/products/esco-3-ton-...ce-jack-stand/

http://esco.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/10498.jpg

zc06_kisstherain 01-30-2017 02:46 PM

what is jack stands? huh?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...psx0l3nrth.jpg[/URL]

jasonojordan 01-30-2017 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by zc06_kisstherain (Post 2842136)

This is what I'd like to ultimately get.


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