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renfield90 · 01-12-2017, 04:53 PM

For a budget of $2k to $3k, it's tough to beat the T2s. They're a true DA with good range in compression and rebound, no adjuster crosstalk, and designed with aggressive spring rates in mind.

It looks like the 510 is not a true DA, it has a single adjuster that changes compression and rebound together. Same goes for the MCA Reds. Having had shocks like these, they should be avoided IMO; say you decide you're unhappy with rebound, you make a change...but now you've changed compression as well. It's a nightmare to tune.

Stick with a SA or a true DA where you can make adjustments to one phase of the shock at a time.

MeisterR · 01-12-2017, 08:34 PM

At that price range, we would recommend the MeisterR GT1 coilovers.
These are custom build coilovers using CNC internal that are engineered and manufactured in house at our UK workshop in Essex.

We actually recently work out the dynamics on the GT86 and are looking to offer a more track focus setup.
Spring rate are set at 8kg/mm front and rear.
The wheel cycle frequency is a little close, but it is in range of what we like to use with semi-slick tyres, and should be enough to make sure the suspension do not hit harmonic.

The damper valving if on threaded compound tires will have a more progressive load, so it will give the tires a little time to find grip before the load are initialised.
We do have a harsher valving design for full slicks, and can build to the prefer specification.

The GT1 coilovers for USA market will be build and serviced by MeisterR USA workshop.
So if anything goes wrong, we will be able to service them in USA.

Any other questions, please feel free to let us know.

Jerrick

Falcon · 01-13-2017, 03:01 AM

In your Price Range everything is possible.

To add a german perspective take a look at the KW V3.

You can add the adjustable Top Mounts too.

Shark_Bait88 · 01-13-2017, 09:54 AM

I've got a set of SACHS RS1 coilovers for sale for $1,800

RJasonKlein · 01-13-2017, 05:00 PM

I chose to go with pre-owned MCS singles, and haven't been disappointed. They rarely come up for sale on our classifieds, but when they do they offer serious performance and value. The company traces its lineage to Moton and the single adjustable dampers can be fully rebuilt, revalved, and converted to two-way adjustable dampers as your needs change in the future - highly recommended!

wparsons · 01-13-2017, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon

In your Price Range everything is possible.

To add a german perspective take a look at the KW V3.

You can add the adjustable Top Mounts too.

V3's are a bit on the soft side for heavy track use, and the RCE T2's are custom spec'd 2 way KW clubsports. Built by KW for RCE, so you still get the KW quality but with a more track focused damping setup.

Shark_Bait88 · 01-13-2017, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RJasonKlein

I chose to go with pre-owned MCS singles, and haven't been disappointed. They rarely come up for sale on our classifieds, but when they do they offer serious performance and value. The company traces its lineage to Moton and the single adjustable dampers can be fully rebuilt, revalved, and converted to double or four-way adjustable dampers as your needs change in the future - highly recommended!

I'm planning to go with Tarmac 2s before the next autox season, but holding off as long as possible in case some used MCS pop up. haha

Captain Snooze · 01-13-2017, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonsey

The MCA reds are in a similar price point and have heard excellent things about them, but they are an Australian company.....

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Originally Posted by Archfarseer

RCE T2 is one of them, as you've mentioned. Do you have any views on
1) Fortune Auto 510,
2) MCA Red or X-R?

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

You won't truly appreciate local support until you need it.

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EAGLE5 · 01-13-2017, 08:33 PM

The peeps in the know seem terribly unimpressed with Fortune Auto. Winning in lower-end racing seems more to do with driver skill than car setup. Also, I doubt the winners are running off-the-shelf setups.

PollosHermanos · 01-14-2017, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

With those tires the 500/500 or 500/550 would be recommended. Alternatively, you could add firmer swaybars but I would recommend the firmer springs (as you may still want the stiffer sways in addition to that).

- Andrew

Was considering the same options for the $2-$3k range and decided on the T2s.

I just placed my order last week and admittedly I didn't think about tires affecting spring rates

. Running a 245/40/17 R-S3s V2 now and I was planning on a new same sized set of RE-11s for next season.

My order was with standard spring rates - should I have swapped these for a stiffer spring @racecompengineering?

Racecomp Engineering · 01-14-2017, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PollosHermanos

Was considering the same options for the $2-$3k range and decided on the T2s.

I just placed my order last week and admittedly I didn't think about tires affecting spring rates

. Running a 245/40/17 R-S3s V2 now and I was planning on a new same sized set of RE-11s for next season.

My order was with standard spring rates - should I have swapped these for a stiffer spring @racecompengineering?

With RS3s and RE-11s you're good to go with the standard spring rates.

We designed the standard rates around sticky street tires like the RE-11s.

The RC1s the other user is running are a bit more aggressive/sticky than that, so stiffer springs are recommended.

- Andrew

PollosHermanos · 01-14-2017, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

With RS3s and RE-11s you're good to go with the standard spring rates.

We designed the standard rates around sticky street tires like the RE-11s.

The RC1s the other user is running are a bit more aggressive/sticky than that, so stiffer springs are recommended.

- Andrew

Sweet, thanks! Now all that's left is to get the coils and stare at them for 2 1/2 months until winter is over :eek:

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TofuJoe · 01-14-2017, 08:05 PM

@BigFatFlip has some first generation Ohlins for sale for $1800. I bet they won't last long at that price though.

solidONE · 01-14-2017, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

I've got a set of SACHS RS1 coilovers for sale for $1,800

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

I'm planning to go with Tarmac 2s before the next autox season, but holding off as long as possible in case some used MCS pop up. haha

Y U no Sachs? I'm very curious as to why you're not happy with them? Streetability problems (too harsh, bouncy etc. on low speed/load stuff)?

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