Heavy City Drivers, please opine...

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Spec C Wannabe

Thank you all for your kind comments.

One thing that hesitates me is the driving around with the widely criticized "Torque Dip" in the heavy traffic. Is it tiresome to constantly work the engine and gearshift to get around that torupe dip in order to to cut/swerve through the traffic?

As for the clutch peddle effort, I don't have any problem after my estended test drives in BRZ many times. In contrast, I quite enjoyed my left foot that it had some involement in the driving.

What about NVH in the long run?

Just pay no mind to what people call the "torque dip". As @Tcoat mentioned, for average driving, it's nothing more that something that one can see on a piece of graph paper.

As far as cabin noise, unless you have a loud aftermarket exhaust, the cabin is fairly quiet, especially, if you stick a cork in the sound tube.


humfrz

[fitcious]

You will miss the comfort creatures and quietness of the IS250...

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Spec C Wannabe

One thing that hesitates me is the driving around with the widely criticized "Torque Dip" in the heavy traffic. Is it tiresome to constantly work the engine and gearshift to get around that torupe dip in order to to cut/swerve through the traffic?

You won't notice it in traffic. The torque dip comes in between 3500 and 4000 rpm. It's really only noticeable when you wind it out and feel that second kick when it hits 4000 rpm.

On the other hand, these people saying the torque dip is just on paper obviously don't ever push the car hard. It's definitely there. I feel it every time I drive the car. It doesn't really bother me, though.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

You won't notice it in traffic. The torque dip comes in between 3500 and 4000 rpm. It's really only noticeable when you wind it out and feel that second kick when it hits 4000 rpm.

On the other hand, these people saying the torque dip is just on paper obviously don't ever push the car hard. It's definitely there. I feel it every time I drive the car. It doesn't really bother me, though.

Don't feel it in CITY driving. Even between it is "there" it is gone in a fraction of a second as you ;pow through the gears. None of this "I can't get up to speed to merge since it takes too long" crap that some spew.

[Celica00]

Originally Posted by fitcious

You will miss the comfort creatures and quietness of the IS250...

Yes, I keep my comfort creatures in the glove box (couldn't resist)

But seriously OP, the torque dip is negligible. Heavy traffic, light traffic, the 86 is great.

[EAGLE5]

I'd at least test drive a GTI. If I drove traffic a lot, I'd not get a twin. Just not the best tool for the job.

[MarkR171]

I removed the clutch helper spring in my FRS many months ago. I've since forgotten the feeling of the lighter pedal with the spring installed. I live in Northern Virginia and drive to DC often. It's not an issue.

[VTEC]

Originally Posted by Spec C Wannabe

Thank you all for your kind comments.

One thing that hesitates me is the driving around with the widely criticized "Torque Dip" in the heavy traffic. Is it tiresome to constantly work the engine and gearshift to get around that torupe dip in order to to cut/swerve through the traffic?

As for the clutch peddle effort, I don't have any problem after my estended test drives in BRZ many times. In contrast, I quite enjoyed my left foot that it had some involement in the driving.

What about NVH in the long run?

The torque dip was a bit annoying during hot summer days when I was still using 91 octane. But once I switch to 93 octane it's fine. You're supposed to use 93 octane anyway.

As for the noise, there is a sound tube in the wheel well that you can plug very easily to make it quieter.

Overall it's a great city car for zipping in and out of traffic. Very agile, quick shifter, and an engine that's eager to rev.

[mrg666]

Originally Posted by Spec C Wannabe

Hi FRS/86/BRZ owners,


For those who have been driving your FRS/86/BRZ mainly in the heavy-traffic cities, I would like to have your comments/experience sharing how well/tolerable you can live with your car?


I raised this topic because I am making my mind about buying a BRZ (Manual Trans) but I am living in a city that has super heavy traffic.


I used to have 04 WRX M/T that I had driven for 7 years mainly in the city with heavy traffic before changing to IS250 A/T. I don't have much trouble driving M/T in the traffic because I am physically fit (I am a regular runner and weight train regulary).


I just want a lightweight, fun-to-drive, rear wheel drive sport car that can turn the boring daily commute into a sprightly one. I am just not sure if my choice is right.


Thank you in advance for your kind comment and valuable experience sharing.

Since I don't like driving MT in stop-n-go traffic every day, my FR-S is AT. It is auto when needed and manual when I want. You don't even need to switch to manual to take control. The paddles are always available and functional in both AT and MT modes. In the manual mode you can use both paddle or sequential shifter. If you decide to paddle shift without switching to manual mode, the transmission waits until you release the throttle to go back to AT mode by itself. It takes a little time to learn using this AT/MT transmission efficiently but it is fun. I can't wait leaving home in the morning and work in the evening just to drive my FR-S.

Plus, the final gear is longer ratio than MT that is quieter when cruising on the highway, better mpg, and also higher top speed.

[mrg666]

Originally Posted by Spec C Wannabe

Hi FRS/86/BRZ owners,


For those who have been driving your FRS/86/BRZ mainly in the heavy-traffic cities, I would like to have your comments/experience sharing how well/tolerable you can live with your car?


I raised this topic because I am making my mind about buying a BRZ (Manual Trans) but I am living in a city that has super heavy traffic.


I used to have 04 WRX M/T that I had driven for 7 years mainly in the city with heavy traffic before changing to IS250 A/T. I don't have much trouble driving M/T in the traffic because I am physically fit (I am a regular runner and weight train regulary).


I just want a lightweight, fun-to-drive, rear wheel drive sport car that can turn the boring daily commute into a sprightly one. I am just not sure if my choice is right.


Thank you in advance for your kind comment and valuable experience sharing.

Since I don't like driving MT in stop-n-go traffic every day, my FR-S is AT. It is auto when needed and manual when I want. You don't even need to switch to manual to take control. The paddles are always available and functional in both AT and MT modes. In the manual mode you can use both paddle or sequential shifter. If you decide to paddle shift without switching to manual mode, the transmission waits until you release the throttle to go back to AT mode by itself. It takes a little time to learn using this AT/MT transmission efficiently but it is fun. I can't wait leaving home in the morning and work in the evening just to drive my FR-S.

Plus, the final gear is longer ratio than MT that is quieter when cruising on the highway, better mpg, and also higher top speed.

[FR-Sky]

Basically, I drive 1 hour traffic to work and 1 hour traffic back home almost everyday.
It is a manual, and I love driving it. If you like this car enough, you wouldn't care something like this.

[cjd]

I think its a brilliant city car that's great for a bit of driving fun once you get it out to open roads. Light, good brakes, more power than you need and reasonable fuel economy. My biggest worry is not being seen, but that maybe a Chicago thing... Probably not.

[Carbinebbq]

Can't comment about the transmission, as I have an AT. However I drive in moderate traffic (SoCal). The ride is comfortable. If you are fit and enjoy the car then I think you'll enjoy it.

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[Overdrive]

Mine isn't a manual, but I have a much less forgiving manual car that I drive in any traffic, and it bothers me none. The manual in the 86 is way more compliant and user-friendly, so since you're already used to putting your left leg to work, you'll be fine. Just get one and enjoy it.