Tail of the Dragon Video

[Mitch]

Anybody who hasn't been to the dragon, here's the one I shot (driving relatively tamely). [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SihNJT8Jtrg"]Tail of the Dragon - BRZ - YouTube[/ame]

[rice_classic]

Originally Posted by R8

Mexico? But the thread says "Tail of the Dragon..." isn't that in North Carolina?

He was making a joke. The Tail of the Dragon is not in Mexico.

[FRSpdDmn]

Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r

Why the lock?

Because some people here didn't approve of the way I approached the road and it's not worth creating a potentially bad image for myself.

[R8]

Originally Posted by Jedi1

Driving the Dragon even at the speed limit looks and feels quick. Would have loved to check this out.

It does look like an enjoyable road

What would scare me though is apparently a ton of OTHER people think that too, and drive it kinda crazy... and I'd fear one of them losing it around a bend and hitting me. YouTube seems full of people crashing, crossing the double-yellow in corners, etc.

[Mitch]

Originally Posted by R8

It does look like an enjoyable road

What would scare me though is apparently a ton of OTHER people think that too, and drive it kinda crazy... and I'd fear one of them losing it around a bend and hitting me. YouTube seems full of people crashing, crossing the double-yellow in corners, etc.

When I went, either the day of or the day before a Porsche had spun out through the middle of a turn (thankfully nobody was injured), and a motorcyclist had died two days before.

[SnapOv3st3r]

Originally Posted by FRSpdDmn

Because some people here didn't approve of the way I approached the road and it's not worth creating a potentially bad image for myself.

I use to street race back in the day, but moved all that fun over to the track and have way more fun there. So, I can never knock anyone who does it, cause I was there once. Just use enough judgement to not endanger other people is the only thing I ever harp on.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r

I use to street race back in the day, but moved all that fun over to the track and have way more fun there. So, I can never knock anyone who does it, cause I was there once. Just use enough judgement to not endanger other people is the only thing I ever harp on.

I don't know if "knocking them" is the right term for it, but IMHO the fact that you did it, survived it, but say the errors of your way make you the perfect person to advise to someone its not the right thing to do. I don't see any reason to sugar coat it, lay it out there (politely of course)

Good parents do that every day!

[R8]

Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r

I use to street race back in the day, but moved all that fun over to the track and have way more fun there...

I drove like a lunatic in my younger years, not to mention doing like 30+ autocrosses. I thought I knew everything, not to mention being immortal of course.

Then I went to the track. A very rude awakening, lol. Street hooliganism and even AutoX just don't compare. You quickly realize how much you don't know, and how reckless you'd been. At least I did.

[EsoBOFH]

Originally Posted by FRSpdDmn

Alright, alright... I've locked the video. Mods can feel free to delete this thread.

ahh c'mon guys.. condone or don't condone, watch it or don't watch it... but ask the questions before you hate.

I, personally, would love to see the vid... password?

[Jedi1]

I started hanging out at the local "Hot Rod" parking lot when I was 15. Had my first car on the street the day I turned 16 and probably drag raced someone that night. (This was 1985-86) We always did this in locations that were not utilized at night and had cars watching both ends of where we were running. Here's the thing. We didn't race on highways or through neighborhoods. Was it wrong, absolutely! There was a horrible wreck that stopped most of us in our tracks right around the time I turned 21. I had been racing Motocross, Stock Cars and Shifters as well as auto crossing for years at that point and realized that what we were doing on the street wasn't worth the cost in lives and property.

Having said all that, I still enjoy a nice road as much as the next person. If I find a nice back road or Mountain Pass and I'm in the right car (FRS, Mini, Mini Van, Hummer, F650, Freightliner. I'll pretty much drive anything!) I'm going to have a bit of fun. For the most part I lock the cruise at 5ish over the limit and roll on though.

Keep it safe. Find a local SCCA, NASA or other sanctioning body and get out to an autocross, track day or drift event and learn how to control whatever you drive.

Sean

[SnapOv3st3r]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I don't know if "knocking them" is the right term for it, but IMHO the fact that you did it, survived it, but say the errors of your way make you the perfect person to advise to someone its not the right thing to do. I don't see any reason to sugar coat it, lay it out there (politely of course)

Good parents do that every day!

Yeah, but I'm not their parent. I have kids of my own for that. Besides, there are enough people to tell them what they shouldn't do on public streets.

Originally Posted by R8

I drove like a lunatic in my younger years, not to mention doing like 30+ autocrosses. I thought I knew everything, not to mention being immortal of course.

Then I went to the track. A very rude awakening, lol. Street hooliganism and even AutoX just don't compare. You quickly realize how much you don't know, and how reckless you'd been. At least I did.

Same here, except I learned that lesson when I went to my first AutoX event. I prefer full road course though, since I like 3-5th gear.

[R8]

Originally Posted by Jedi1

Having said all that, I still enjoy a nice road as much as the next person. If I find a nice back road or Mountain Pass and I'm in the right car (FRS, Mini, Mini Van, Hummer, F650, Freightliner...

Oh me too, even in my old age lol... but enjoy these days means getting the shifting perfect, braking and accelerating smoothly (not necessarily quickly), etc. Trying to reach that nirvana, fluidic "harmony" of flowing with the road. You all know what I mean.

Never, ever do I intentionally "drift" though or push anywhere near the point of the rear twitching or needing to be caught. Just graceful, smooth, dance...

[Jedi1]

Even if you love the big tracks, don't knock autocross. Everything you need to learn in the area of car control can be learned at an autocross between 50-60 mph. If you are just getting into performance driving I can promise you the first time you experience truly terminal under or oversteer, you DO NOT want it to be over 100 mph heading towards armco.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r

Yeah, but I'm not their parent. I have kids of my own for that. Besides, there are enough people to tell them what they shouldn't do on public streets....

Understood. I just meant that it doesn't hurt to share your experience.