Effective NA Power Mods

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Cole

All these pulley debates remind me of the great physics question:

If you put an airplane on a treadmill that matches the wheel speed of the airplane perfectly so that no forward motion of the plane is achieved, will it take off?

May I pick the airplane?

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

May I pick the airplane?

Yes, harriers and marine f-35s will still take off.








So will other planes. Just saying, those will too.

[guybo]

So, OP- in short. Lightweight driveline components, if they do anything, are not worth the money IF you are on a budget. Bigger throttlebody is of questionable benefit and is not on the shortlist for budget power. Again, it is not even a question that if you are looking for band-for-the-buck, these do too little to make a difference for the money you pay.

Drop-in
catless Header, secondary cat delete
Tuned on 93

That's your basic 180 HPish recipe. I added in a silicone intake and an axleback, I'm going to get it dynoed eventually and see how gutting the cats compares with high end headers. But mine is a budget build all the way. Ecutek will net you more power, that's dyno proven but it costs more too.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

So will other planes. Just saying, those will too.

Wait, wut? If it ain't moving?

[Cole]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

May I pick the airplane?

So long as it's a typical take off in a forward motion that any normal pleb can buy a ticket and board.

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Yes, harriers and marine f-35s will still take off.








So will other planes. Just saying, those will too.

I'll murder you if you get smart with me one more time, ya feel me, dog? I ain't talkin' no VTOL bullshit here.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Cole

So long as it's a typical take off in a forward motion that any normal pleb can buy a ticket and board.

But it's not moving, right?

[MuseChaser]

Originally Posted by Cole

All these pulley debates remind me of the great physics question:

If you put an airplane on a treadmill that matches the wheel speed of the airplane perfectly so that no forward motion of the plane is achieved, will it take off?

I've always liked that question. Unfortunately, it's based on fallacious logic. The wheels on an airplane, unlike a wheel-driven vehicle (engine-to-transmission-to-differential-to-axle-to-wheel or similar) are not driven at all; they just idle or "coast" like the wheels on a shopping cart. An airplane-sized treadmill would have no effect on the speed of the aircraft; the aircraft's speed (caution--- oversimplification ahead) is governed by the thrust of the air rearward by the propellor. The aircraft would move forward independent of the speed of the treadmill. As the airspeed increases, the wheels would spin proportionally faster than the treadmill until the airplane would eventually lift off in the same amount of horizontal distance it would have lifted off if the ground beneath it had been stationary; it's airspeed across the wing that determines the lift. Now, if the treadmill/wheel interface creates an appreciable amount of drag, then it would take longer to achieve the required airspeed for take off, but there's no way a treadmill COULD "match the wheel speed... so that no forward motion is achieved" simply because the wheel speed would have no effect (other than friction of the wheel to treadmill interface and bearings) on forward motion. That plane is going forward, no matter what, unless the wheels are being prevented from rotating by brakes or wheel chocks.

Soo... fun question, but faulty premise.

Yeah, there's a bit more to it, but that's the gist of it.

Barry

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by Cole

I'll murder you if you get smart with me one more time, ya feel me, dog? I ain't talkin' no VTOL bullshit here.

I'm sorry, I don't understand your strange Canadian dialect.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

I'm sorry, I don't understand your strange Canadian dialect.

lol

[MuseChaser]

Originally Posted by Cole

.......

..., ya feel me, dog? I ain't talkin' no VTOL bullshit here.

Translation...

"Please caress my Pekingese if you wish. I am not willing to discuss male cattle excrement with ViTriOL at these coordinates."


You're welcome.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

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Barry

Oh, blah blah blah... now the fun is all gone.

[MuseChaser]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Oh, blah blah blah... now the fun is all gone.

My work here is done.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

My work here is done.

lol... twice in one thread!

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

Translation...

"Please caress my Pekingese if you wish."

Don't you have to say "no homo" before you just go caressing another man's Pekingese?