2017 BRZ On Dyno vs 2013 FRS on Dyno - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

DAEMANO · 10-15-2016, 03:21 PM

Wasn't Club4AG Moto Miwa (Moto-P on this board) quoted somewhere as saying the 5 hp difference was actually closer to 20 HP? Turns out he probably wasn't exaggerating at all.

justinco · 10-15-2016, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo

That 18.5hp difference is starting to bother me

This is just one data point, I wouldn't worry about it too much. As more people start doing comparisons it will become more clear how much difference there is between the cars.

bfrank1972 · 10-15-2016, 04:09 PM

yup, just to put things in perspective, both a 2013 and 2017 models are still slow lol

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deejaylew · 10-15-2016, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bfrank1972

yup, just to put things in perspective, both a 2013 and 2017 models are still slow lol

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This is what we all seem to forget at times

Zaku · 10-15-2016, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GsxrMe

Is that a manual 2017 with the new Aluminum Intake bychance? Because the motors can be entirely the same. With the new intake the car may have a more aggressive tune.

Yes.

D_Thissen · 10-15-2016, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by churchx

Gains are small, but then again changes were not that big off to start with. Free-er flowing airfilter (thus +5whp from dropin aftermarket filter in pre-17 will put curves much closer), slightly wider diameter header tubes, slightly less sharp angled intake tube, a bit reworked throttle spider....

I wonder, will the MY17 have similar gains with bolt ons as pre 2017? For example, will Header 'A' give the same gains on both vehicles? Or is this pretty much as good as it gets with out going FI?

Tcoat · 10-15-2016, 09:30 PM

And CSG Mike's for comparison ( Pretty much spot on):

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...23#post2775823

nikitopo · 10-16-2016, 01:10 AM

Nice! It looks that power gains are on this range.

Zaku · 10-16-2016, 08:05 PM

now what would be interesting and funny, in some ways and hopefully this won't happen.
but if you put an 86 on the dyno and it gives something different than the BRZ.

it wont happen but if it did, well I'm sure hell will break lose hahaha

Freddy@PTUNING · 10-17-2016, 11:18 AM

These pulls were done in 5th gear.

The factory tune is definitely way more aggressive on the MY17.

himbo · 10-17-2016, 11:32 PM

I wonder how much lower top speed is with the new final drive...

justinco · 10-18-2016, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by himbo

I wonder how much lower top speed is with the new final drive...

I am interested in the same thing, specifically for 2nd gear since we autocross primarily in 2nd. I will let you know soon

My '17 BRZ is almost broken in and will be able figure it out, at least, in the lower gears.

Calum · 10-18-2016, 07:09 AM

Was there any other gearing changes other than the FD?

Kodename47 · 10-18-2016, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Calum

Was there any other gearing changes other than the FD?

No

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