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humfrz · 08-16-2016, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bshep

They said the entire rear end is gone, but they are going to fix it and cover everything besides a rental.

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Well, that's good.

You might consider asking them what they mean by "the entire rear end is gone".

I (we) would like to know.

humfrz

bshep · 08-16-2016, 06:05 PM

The guy had no idea. He said with some interesting hand movements that a piece inside the rear end that makes it move went out so they have to replace everything. It had the normal metal shavings on the drain plug

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gramicci101 · 08-16-2016, 06:11 PM

That sounds like the ring or pinion gear shit itself. But that wouldn't have a normal amount of metal shavings, it would have chunks of gear teeth.

PMPB · 08-16-2016, 06:19 PM

The symptoms don't match what the dealer is saying?! If the "the entire rear end is gone", this would most likely make a horrible noise while accelerating (amazing that it's still driveable), and then be relatively more quiet while the clutch pedal is depressed.

Also, if any rear end components lunched themselves, their respective oil baths would look like oily mercury, and the magnetic drain plugs like metal cacti.

bshep · 08-16-2016, 06:34 PM

Well they said it wouldn't be making the noise when I picked it up.... soooooooooo if it is I guess they can go from there and fix whatever else it may be. They are on their own dime now. But for now I'm stuck driving a Ford focus.... whoohoo rental cars I'll update as I find out more. They also were going to put in the oem gear oil I told them no thank you that I would bring my own, but I can not find a place in town that sells motul 300 which is what I've seen to be everyone's favorite. Any other suggestions?

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gramicci101 · 08-16-2016, 06:43 PM

Check the Subaru dealership. I know mine sells Motul products. You'll need two quarts.

bshep · 08-16-2016, 06:44 PM

Ok thank you

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PMPB · 08-16-2016, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bshep

I can not find a place in town that sells motul 300 which is what I've seen to be everyone's favorite. Any other suggestions

I assume you're in Florida. Most people who switched transmission oil did it for Racing reasons, or because the transmissions shifts like shit when the tranny is cold. Florida doesn't really get "cold" does it (like into the 30's).

I think the OEM fluid should be just fine for you? If you do a lot of low speed tight tight turning (parking lots), you could always switch out the differential fluid to Gear300 later. It's a bit more slippery than the OEM stuff and tends to reduce the juddering from the rear end when making tight turns, IIRC.

pantdino · 08-17-2016, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bshep

Well they said it wouldn't be making the noise when I picked it up.... soooooooooo if it is I guess they can go from there and fix whatever else it may be. They are on their own dime now. But for now I'm stuck driving a Ford focus.... whoohoo rental cars I'll update as I find out more. They also were going to put in the oem gear oil I told them no thank you that I would bring my own, but I can not find a place in town that sells motul 300 which is what I've seen to be everyone's favorite. Any other suggestions?

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I'd let them put Oem fluid in and change it later after everything seems good.. You don't need them messing something up in the job then when you bring it back in 2 weeks saying it's not covered bec u put in non-Oem fluid.

bshep · 08-18-2016, 09:12 PM

They ended up replacing the entire rear differential and she is running like a dream. No crazy noises and it's actually taking off better!!! Whoohoo!!! Went back with oem fluids.

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RichardsFRS · 08-19-2016, 01:55 PM

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Silver Cervy · 08-19-2016, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by number_Un0

my car is making the same noise, it started happening after my transmission was replaced under warranty for the 5th gear grind, I've been driving it like this for 8k miles now. (im at 32k). I've just been to lazy and didnt feel like putting my stock exhaust back on and take it to the dealer.

You shouldn't have to do that. There's no way they can peg a bad TOB on an exhaust system, but I'd love to see them try.

number_Un0 · 08-19-2016, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Cervy

You shouldn't have to do that. There's no way they can peg a bad TOB on an exhaust system, but I'd love to see them try.

Rather play it safe. I've heard too many stories of dealerships refusing to do warranty work because of a mod not related to the problem.

exE36M3 · 08-20-2016, 03:50 PM

FWIW - a throwout bearing isn't going to make any noise when you are driving. It just floats there until you push the clutch in and engages the pressure plate. When it starts to go, it'll make a metallic whirring noise or chirping when you push the clutch in. When it TOTALLY goes you may hear horrible scraping noise and/or not get any clutch engagement at all - when you push the clutch in.

The TB on my 1990 Miata lasted over 120k miles and my BMW M3 120k miles as a reference.

If your car makes ANY kind of noises at speed, and it's NOT related to the engine revs and it's NOT an automatic, then it will most likely be driveline or wheel.

Sorry, I didn't see your post sooner but glad the dealer got it right for you!

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08-16-2016, 06:05 PM	#16
bshep Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Drives: 2013 scion frs hot LAVA Location: panhandle Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The guy had no idea. He said with some interesting hand movements that a piece inside the rear end that makes it move went out so they have to replace everything. It had the normal metal shavings on the drain plug Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk

08-16-2016, 06:11 PM	#17
gramicci101 Off Topic Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Vegas, baby! Posts: 4,610 Thanks: 2,369 Thanked 4,243 Times in 2,170 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	That sounds like the ring or pinion gear shit itself. But that wouldn't have a normal amount of metal shavings, it would have chunks of gear teeth.

08-16-2016, 06:19 PM	#18
PMPB Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: BRZ Sport-tech Location: Canada Posts: 347 Thanks: 77 Thanked 182 Times in 111 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The symptoms don't match what the dealer is saying?! If the "the entire rear end is gone", this would most likely make a horrible noise while accelerating (amazing that it's still driveable), and then be relatively more quiet while the clutch pedal is depressed. Also, if any rear end components lunched themselves, their respective oil baths would look like oily mercury, and the magnetic drain plugs like metal cacti.

08-16-2016, 06:34 PM	#19
bshep Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Drives: 2013 scion frs hot LAVA Location: panhandle Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Well they said it wouldn't be making the noise when I picked it up.... soooooooooo if it is I guess they can go from there and fix whatever else it may be. They are on their own dime now. But for now I'm stuck driving a Ford focus.... whoohoo rental cars I'll update as I find out more. They also were going to put in the oem gear oil I told them no thank you that I would bring my own, but I can not find a place in town that sells motul 300 which is what I've seen to be everyone's favorite. Any other suggestions? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk

08-16-2016, 06:43 PM	#20
gramicci101 Off Topic Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Vegas, baby! Posts: 4,610 Thanks: 2,369 Thanked 4,243 Times in 2,170 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Check the Subaru dealership. I know mine sells Motul products. You'll need two quarts.

08-16-2016, 06:44 PM	#21
bshep Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Drives: 2013 scion frs hot LAVA Location: panhandle Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ok thank you Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk

08-18-2016, 09:12 PM	#24
bshep Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Drives: 2013 scion frs hot LAVA Location: panhandle Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	They ended up replacing the entire rear differential and she is running like a dream. No crazy noises and it's actually taking off better!!! Whoohoo!!! Went back with oem fluids. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk

08-20-2016, 03:50 PM	#28
exE36M3 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: NorCal Posts: 331 Thanks: 165 Thanked 173 Times in 93 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FWIW - a throwout bearing isn't going to make any noise when you are driving. It just floats there until you push the clutch in and engages the pressure plate. When it starts to go, it'll make a metallic whirring noise or chirping when you push the clutch in. When it TOTALLY goes you may hear horrible scraping noise and/or not get any clutch engagement at all - when you push the clutch in. The TB on my 1990 Miata lasted over 120k miles and my BMW M3 120k miles as a reference. If your car makes ANY kind of noises at speed, and it's NOT related to the engine revs and it's NOT an automatic, then it will most likely be driveline or wheel. Sorry, I didn't see your post sooner but glad the dealer got it right for you!

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