Solving the transmission problem. The R154. - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

krimsonmedic · 08-10-2016, 03:34 AM

So I was recently in contact with a well known performance fabrication company, and I inquired about getting an Fa20 to R154 adapter made.

They said if it was a one off piece, the cost would be prohibitive for most.. but If they had enough interest.. they might be willing to put one into production.

So, who's interested in an R154 Swap kit?

They are cheap, and when built with a MC upgrade pack.. hold Gobs of power.

What do you say guys? Am I the only one, or does it sound as good to you as it does to me?

(Seriously, is this a bad idea? It doesn't seem terrible, but I'm no expert)

KendallH · 08-10-2016, 11:19 AM

Have you ever driven a car with an R154? They shift like absolute ass. Same trans as jeep wranglers and dodge trucks.

FX86 · 08-10-2016, 11:22 AM

what transmission problem?

wootwoot · 08-10-2016, 11:27 AM

So we would need the trans, adapter, new trans mount, and new drive shaft I'm guessing?

Summerwolf · 08-10-2016, 11:33 AM

Rather have a T56.

Toyarzee · 08-10-2016, 12:14 PM

And no, they aren't cheap. Been trying to fit one behind a 2rz and I've since dropped my standards down to a w58 due to costs.

On a somewhat related note, does someone know off the top of their heads which jeep trans it is that's directly comparable? From a 90s Cherokee right and some wranglers right?

gramicci101 · 08-10-2016, 12:51 PM

FullBlown makes a kit to drop a Supra V160 in. That'll probably be better than a random truck transmission.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53454

KendallH · 08-10-2016, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toyarzee

And no, they aren't cheap. Been trying to fit one behind a 2rz and I've since dropped my standards down to a w58 due to costs.

On a somewhat related note, does someone know off the top of their heads which jeep trans it is that's directly comparable? From a 90s Cherokee right and some wranglers right?

http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...ns/manual/ax15

KendallH · 08-10-2016, 01:41 PM

I know this because I was contemplating dropping a JZ into my Wrangler and keeping 4WD

it's essentially just a bellhousing swap, mismatch clutch, and change/modify the input shaft away from working.

Toyarzee · 08-10-2016, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KendallH

http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...ns/manual/ax15

Silvermk2 · 08-10-2016, 02:18 PM

I have an R154 in my Supra. They shift fine when rebuilt, but I wouldn't spend the cash people are paying for them now. Plus if you break anything you can't buy a lot of the internal parts so then you're stuck buying another expensive core to start over with. They're not that strong either. The biggest problem with mine is I can't get the tail shaft to stop leaking. I personally think the breather/oiling setup sucks from the factory in the R154. A lot of people have this problem if you look around. I would look at more modern options like the CD009 or the T56/TR6060.

Drakiv · 08-10-2016, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramicci101

FullBlown makes a kit to drop a Supra V160 in. That'll probably be better than a random truck transmission.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53454

The only issue with that is the cost of the transmission alone, not to mention toyota announced they are no longer supporting the v160/161 anymore. It will be a matter of time before the parts that are left floating around dry up and you cant rebuild those things anymore.

krimsonmedic · 08-11-2016, 07:39 AM

The v160 is almost pointless, for that cost you could buy a LS and a t56.

I don't know where you guys are getting them for such an expensive cost, my friend got one for his Supra rebuild, The (already working) r154 and the MC rebuild kit was less than 2k together.

I have one sitting in my garage that we pulled apart and inspected, and while it hasn't been put in anything.. it looks fine on the inside/holds fluid. Cost me $900.

And if you guys haven't looked around, they are being put in supra's/JZ swaps because they are way more cost effective. On top of that a R154 with an MC kit could hold well over 600HP. I've read more, but I've only seen 600whp on it first hand.

Hell, Pure auto is doing their Budget 2jz swap with an R154 right now.

krimsonmedic · 08-11-2016, 07:42 AM

The t56 isn't a bad idea, but even used it's 2x the cost.

08-10-2016, 03:34 AM	#1
krimsonmedic Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2013 Scion Frs. Location: Memphis Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Solving the transmission problem. The R154. So I was recently in contact with a well known performance fabrication company, and I inquired about getting an Fa20 to R154 adapter made. They said if it was a one off piece, the cost would be prohibitive for most.. but If they had enough interest.. they might be willing to put one into production. So, who's interested in an R154 Swap kit? They are cheap, and when built with a MC upgrade pack.. hold Gobs of power. What do you say guys? Am I the only one, or does it sound as good to you as it does to me? (Seriously, is this a bad idea? It doesn't seem terrible, but I'm no expert)

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KendallH Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Drives: 2013 FR-S Base, 1997 Jeep Wrangler Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 107 Thanks: 4 Thanked 136 Times in 43 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I know this because I was contemplating dropping a JZ into my Wrangler and keeping 4WD it's essentially just a bellhousing swap, mismatch clutch, and change/modify the input shaft away from working.

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Silvermk2 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: Toyota Supra 2JZGTE VVTi Location: United States Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 33 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have an R154 in my Supra. They shift fine when rebuilt, but I wouldn't spend the cash people are paying for them now. Plus if you break anything you can't buy a lot of the internal parts so then you're stuck buying another expensive core to start over with. They're not that strong either. The biggest problem with mine is I can't get the tail shaft to stop leaking. I personally think the breather/oiling setup sucks from the factory in the R154. A lot of people have this problem if you look around. I would look at more modern options like the CD009 or the T56/TR6060.

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krimsonmedic Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2013 Scion Frs. Location: Memphis Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The v160 is almost pointless, for that cost you could buy a LS and a t56. I don't know where you guys are getting them for such an expensive cost, my friend got one for his Supra rebuild, The (already working) r154 and the MC rebuild kit was less than 2k together. I have one sitting in my garage that we pulled apart and inspected, and while it hasn't been put in anything.. it looks fine on the inside/holds fluid. Cost me $900. And if you guys haven't looked around, they are being put in supra's/JZ swaps because they are way more cost effective. On top of that a R154 with an MC kit could hold well over 600HP. I've read more, but I've only seen 600whp on it first hand. Hell, Pure auto is doing their Budget 2jz swap with an R154 right now.

08-11-2016, 07:42 AM	#14
krimsonmedic Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2013 Scion Frs. Location: Memphis Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The t56 isn't a bad idea, but even used it's 2x the cost.

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