Torque Dip Decisions - Page 8 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

gramicci101 · 06-27-2016, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by krayzie

Is the 2.5L 4 cylinder Camry still faster?

According to Edmunds, it has 178 hp and weighs 3200 lbs, so it never should have been faster in the first place.

krayzie · 06-27-2016, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramicci101

According to Edmunds, it has 178 hp and weighs 3200 lbs, so it never should have been faster in the first place.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

Tcoat · 06-27-2016, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krayzie

Is the 2.5L 4 cylinder Camry still faster?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramicci101

According to Edmunds, it has 178 hp and weighs 3200 lbs, so it never should have been faster in the first place.

Quote:

Originally Posted by krayzie

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

Hell the hybrid has the same 0 to 60 as us! (well the auto ones of us at any rate).
With a proper launch in a MT you should be able to smoke a 2015 XSE V6. Unless of course you find somebody that can drive a Camry at the top limits.

krayzie · 06-27-2016, 09:50 PM

OP I say just buy another Camry.

Tcoat · 06-27-2016, 09:53 PM

And all you guys whining "I get beat by minivans" WTF dudes learn to drive already!

wireman957 · 06-28-2016, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat

And all you guys whining "I get beat by minivans" WTF dudes learn to drive already!

That was my only point several posts ago.

Aztec · 06-28-2016, 02:58 AM

Tune and UEL Header almost completely eliminates the torque dip.
I personally think that it makes for a smoother shifting experience to not be required to shift AROUND the dead zone of 3.5-4.5k

scmil95eg · 06-29-2016, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aztec

Tune and UEL Header almost completely eliminates the torque dip.
I personally think that it makes for a smoother shifting experience to not be required to shift AROUND the dead zone of 3.5-4.5k

I don't understand.
So the ~10 ft/lb deviation between 3400 and 4400 isn't a torque dip?
Define: semantics

Aztec · 06-29-2016, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scmil95eg

I don't understand.
So the ~10 ft/lb deviation between 3400 and 4400 isn't a torque dip?
Define: semantics

Compared to the ~30-40 ft/lb on a stock car, it's much, much more drivable. Never said it was perfect

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stock · 06-29-2016, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Hell the hybrid has the same 0 to 60 as us! (well the auto ones of us at any rate).
With a proper launch in a MT you should be able to smoke a 2015 XSE V6. Unless of course you find somebody that can drive a Camry at the top limits.

I've yet to get beat by anyone. Choose your race wisely. lol

AdrianSaldana · 06-29-2016, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stock

I've yet to get beat by anyone. Choose your race wisely. lol

Very true lol never punch above your weight and expect to win lol (unless running heavy mods)

Quentin · 06-29-2016, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

It is legit.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...61#post2690461

Why they start the y axis at 130 is something I'll never understand. It makes the torque dip look way worse than it really is.

Sent from Tandy 400

nico_rsx · 06-29-2016, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quentin

Why they start the y axis at 130 is something I'll never understand. It makes the torque dip look way worse than it really is.

Sent from Tandy 400

But it also make the torque increase seems a lot better. The red line is only 5% over the blue, but it looks like 15%.

MX73_GT86 · 07-03-2016, 09:37 AM

Header and Tune.

That's what the guys at my local (NC86) group were telling me when I bought mine a year ago. The torque dip was noticeable to me coming from the perfectly flat torque curve of an old Toyota straight-6.

I've had an Ace header (Type B, 350) on the car for about 3 months now and I would not want to own one of these cars without it. There was some hype for it here and from the local guys, and it's well deserved. There is one thread with some very informative dyno result charts.

No tune yet. Planning to have it dyno tuned very soon.

View Poll Results: Which of the following options have you decided upon for this much discussed Gen1 201
No torque dip specific modifications: It doesn't bother me.	67	25.38%
No torque dip specific modifications: I don't want any potential future warranty issues due to mods.	26	9.85%
OFT tune	28	10.61%
UEL Header (Which one?)	14	5.30%
UEL header + OFT tune	100	37.88%
Something else: Please specify.	19	7.20%
Wait for the performance results of the 2017 model before deciding.	10	3.79%
Voters: 264. You may not vote on this poll

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