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Old 06-04-2016, 04:43 PM   #57
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TBH I'm surprised the Canadian members haven't had anything nice to say about the E-class, what with its premium leather-heated seats and being engineered to survive sub 40 degree weather
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Old 06-04-2016, 04:46 PM   #58
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TBH I'm surprised the Canadian members haven't had anything nice to say about the E-class, what with its premium leather-heated seats and being engineered to survive sub 40 degree weather
I think it was downhill after the W124.
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Old 06-04-2016, 04:53 PM   #59
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TBH I'm surprised the Canadian members haven't had anything nice to say about the E-class, what with its premium leather-heated seats and being engineered to survive sub 40 degree weather
I never had a problem with any modern car at -40C or F.

Same weather as the Northern States and some States are further north than where I'm located.
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It's just "German Engineering" sounded absurd and never heard of it before.
You are very good.

How high can you get them to jump?
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Old 06-04-2016, 06:17 PM   #61
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Engineering might be the same no matter where it is done however how a solution is derived differs as cultural heritage comes into play.
There are other factors.
If your population has a higher educational level and you have more engineers per capita, then you can get "better engineering" per unit dollar.

So with a given amount of money, you could probably get "better engineering" in Germany than the same amount of money spent in the US.
If every other person is an engineer, then they are (on average) likely to work for less $$
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There are other factors.
If your population has a higher educational level and you have more engineers per capita, then you can get "better engineering" per unit dollar.

So with a given amount of money, you could probably get "better engineering" in Germany than the same amount of money spent in the US.
If every other person is an engineer, then they are (on average) likely to work for less $$


Pretty high
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Old 06-04-2016, 06:31 PM   #63
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I don't know what any of this has to do with my Lada flipping over into a ditch.
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Engineering might be the same no matter where it is done however how a solution is derived differs as cultural heritage comes into play.
Yes that was my point. The engineering as engineering always remains the same (changes in tech aside) the application of that engineering however differs.
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TBH I'm surprised the Canadian members haven't had anything nice to say about the E-class, what with its premium leather-heated seats and being engineered to survive sub 40 degree weather
Not my cup of tea and I hate heated seats. As they warm up it feels like you peed yourself.
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Not my cup of tea and I hate heated seats. As they warm up it feels like you peed yourself.


You're such a trooper. I hear customers specifying they NEED heated seats... In California....the southern region....Practically Mexico.
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Not my cup of tea and I hate heated seats. As they warm up it feels like you peed yourself.
Especially when like in my 2007 Santa Fe the heat switches were in a place they were very likely to be turned on by accident. Trust me, when driving down the road in Texas, in the summer, and your seat starts getting warm the word "comfort" NEVER comes to mind.

This thread is really making me laugh! Kudos everyone!
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Old 06-04-2016, 11:55 PM   #68
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I don't know the answer to your question. But I do know I was trying to investigate a bad power window on a Beetle. You know, when you take the door panel off an average eco car like a Toyota, Honda, etc. There is a plastic sheet behind the door panel.

You know what the germans had? Another panel held on by about 20 torx bolts. wtf, lmao
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Keeping it simple here..

You could compare frs to a Mazda mx because they're both made to target handling for example

But comparing frs (light weigh sport car) to a Mercedes (luxury/power/big engine) is like comparing a Toyota prius to a Lamborghini/ferrari..

It's more about what league the car fit in to fairly compare them... the other guy just trying to pick a battle he knows he could win (in a straight/drag race).. one definition of a bully
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Yes that was my point. The engineering as engineering always remains the same (changes in tech aside) the application of that engineering however differs.
Just sit in the Twin during a heavy rain storm and you can work out where the engineering was focused. Acoustics, insulation and vibration wasn't the USP.
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