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SquadRon · 06-03-2016, 11:01 PM

Is there such thing as german engineering being better than toyota engineering? My friend drives a mercedes okay he has a point his engine is double the size of my engine, and that the porsche is smaller than my car and has a bigger engine too. Anyhow. I get it the FR-S is not all that but this is a sports car and the engineering in this car is far more balanced than that of a mercedes, right? I went inside a Mercedes and if I wanted a lot of horsepower I would get a charger then but seriously Mercedes is not that perfect is it? What's german engineering, seriously.

His car but with exhaust mods, and if you can guess what this car exactly is then you are an expert. Because I have no idea if it's an E class entirely, but I will ask him. What do you guys think this Mercedes, Year, Make, and Model is? By the way this is the car that I was sitting in.

dvasqu01 · 06-03-2016, 11:05 PM

Bro in before the lock and the ass chewing begins

Yes I'll give you the rice noodle😘

Teseo · 06-03-2016, 11:10 PM

Idk what he do, but i wanna that crap he is using

SquadRon · 06-03-2016, 11:13 PM

You guys have no clue what you are talking about. My question is details about the fundamentals of German Made Cars and Toyota Made Cars

Engineered by two different companies, and I believe he drives a Mercedes E class. But the point is does Mercedes and Toyota engineering have anything to do with the FR-S at all? Idk if you guys are really experts at this but I'll leave this for those who get what I'm trying to say.

themadscientist · 06-03-2016, 11:31 PM

To compare two cars obviously at different levels is unfair. Compare the E class to it's equivalent like a Lexus RC. I would put Lexus (Toyota really) engineering up against Mercedes any day.

It's not really anything to do with the FR-S. The guy is just an asshat. Invite him to follow the FR-S down a windy road. It's not fair to the Mercedes, but he seems to like lopsided battles so fuck him.

Mr.ac · 06-03-2016, 11:48 PM

Dude, pass that shit you keep smoking/eating
Or at lest share where you are getting it from.

mulekr1 · 06-03-2016, 11:50 PM

He sounds like the average BMW/Audi/Mercedes fanboy I come across.

KR-S · 06-03-2016, 11:57 PM

I can't speak for how reliable Benzes are, but I seriously dig the SLS AMG as well as its successor, the AMG GT.

Also, your car and your friend's Benz are two completely different cars. On top of that, a new E-Class sedan according to the MB USA website is $52,650, almost twice the amount of a new FR-S or BRZ. For that amount, I would definitely expect the quality to be much higher than that of an FR-S or a BRZ.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. Opinions are subjective, and you and your friend clearly had different wants/needs when buying your cars. Don't let it get to you. Maybe I might want one when I'm older, but as of now, I see no point in buying a luxury car. My opinion, though.

SquadRon · 06-04-2016, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KR-S 86

I can't speak for how reliable Benzes are, but I seriously dig the SLS AMG as well as its successor, the AMG GT.

Also, your car and your friend's Benz are two completely different cars. On top of that, a new E-Class sedan according to the MB USA website is $52,650, almost twice the amount of a new FR-S or BRZ. For that amount, I would definitely expect the quality to be much higher than that of an FR-S or a BRZ.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. Opinions are subjective, and you and your friend clearly had different wants/needs when buying your cars. Don't let it get to you. Maybe I might want one when I'm older, but as of now, I see no point in buying a luxury car. My opinion, though.

Right, the drive in the FR-S is a lot better than that of a Mercedes. I went inside that Mercedes and he really made it seem as if the huge interior e class coupe was a lot better than that of an FR-S feel of the drive.
I told him I got the FR-S only because the handling is a lot smoother, reliable and responsive. I highly doubt his boat-sized E class coupe can match the reliability of an FR-S in handling.

SquadRon · 06-04-2016, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by themadscientist

To compare two cars obviously at different levels is unfair. Compare the E class to it's equivalent like a Lexus RC. I would put Lexus (Toyota really) engineering up against Mercedes any day.

It's not really anything to do with the FR-S. The guy is just an asshat. Invite him to follow the FR-S down a windy road. It's not fair to the Mercedes, but he seems to like lopsided battles so fuck him.

I got mad because I really wanted a car that had superior handling. And I mean I knew it was bullshit the second I stepped in his car, but really? That car is nothing like an FR-S in handling no matter who the fuck engineered it. Which is why I think the FR-S really is its own seperate class and cannot be compared. Because what car actually FEELS better than the FR-S in driving? Other than the Porsche maybe? I have yet to drive one.

KR-S · 06-04-2016, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SquadRon

Right, the drive in the FR-S is a lot better than that of a Mercedes. I went inside that Mercedes and he really made it seem as if the huge interior e class coupe was a lot better than that of an FR-S feel of the drive.
I told him I got the FR-S only because the handling is a lot smoother, reliable and responsive. I highly doubt his boat-sized E class coupe can match the reliability of an FR-S in handling.

I don't believe the E-Class was designed to be a handling machine. Again, the FR-S and E-Class were built for different purposes: one is a lightweight sports car, and the other a comfortable luxury sedan. You cannot compare the two.

SquadRon · 06-04-2016, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Teseo

Idk what he do, but i wanna that crap he is using

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac

Dude, pass that shit you keep smoking/eating
Or at lest share where you are getting it from.

They legit had a billboard sign over here hanging over the heavy freeway towards Los Angeles in In N Out's headquarters saying Medical Marijuana your next exit. These guys are raking in a lot of cash. They are smaller than a McDonalds restaurant already on the big signs hanging over the freeway. What a remarkable gift from God, and a beautiful plant that heals even those who don't support it.

KR-S · 06-04-2016, 12:09 AM

swarb · 06-04-2016, 12:10 AM

One is not better than another. They are just different. Some would say German cars are over engineered. While Japanese cars are more about efficiency. In the end, if they engineer something and it works out, the others will just copy.

Look up his car. The weight and hp. You'll get a good laugh.

06-03-2016, 11:01 PM	#1
SquadRon Banned Join Date: Apr 2016 Drives: Steel FR-S 2015 Location: Ohigho Posts: 180 Thanks: 29 Thanked 34 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Is this bullshit? Is there such thing as german engineering being better than toyota engineering? My friend drives a mercedes okay he has a point his engine is double the size of my engine, and that the porsche is smaller than my car and has a bigger engine too. Anyhow. I get it the FR-S is not all that but this is a sports car and the engineering in this car is far more balanced than that of a mercedes, right? I went inside a Mercedes and if I wanted a lot of horsepower I would get a charger then but seriously Mercedes is not that perfect is it? What's german engineering, seriously. His car but with exhaust mods, and if you can guess what this car exactly is then you are an expert. Because I have no idea if it's an E class entirely, but I will ask him. What do you guys think this Mercedes, Year, Make, and Model is? By the way this is the car that I was sitting in. Last edited by SquadRon; 06-04-2016 at 12:19 AM.

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Mr.ac [insert cool phrase here] Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: BRZ Premium Location: Central Coast CA Posts: 2,368 Thanks: 709 Thanked 1,559 Times in 930 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dude, pass that shit you keep smoking/eating Or at lest share where you are getting it from. __________________ New daily driver - Subaru BRZ Premium Weekend fun/track car - '91 MR2 Turbo Gen3 Old daily driver - '88 MR2 Supercharged

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dvasqu01 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Drives: Scion FRS Whiteout Location: Gardena,Ca Posts: 949 Thanks: 272 Thanked 546 Times in 368 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Bro in before the lock and the ass chewing begins Yes I'll give you the rice noodle😘

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Teseo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: frs Location: Gunsai Posts: 4,954 Thanks: 7,467 Thanked 2,980 Times in 1,802 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Idk what he do, but i wanna that crap he is using

06-03-2016, 11:13 PM	#4
SquadRon Banned Join Date: Apr 2016 Drives: Steel FR-S 2015 Location: Ohigho Posts: 180 Thanks: 29 Thanked 34 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	You guys have no clue what you are talking about. My question is details about the fundamentals of German Made Cars and Toyota Made Cars Engineered by two different companies, and I believe he drives a Mercedes E class. But the point is does Mercedes and Toyota engineering have anything to do with the FR-S at all? Idk if you guys are really experts at this but I'll leave this for those who get what I'm trying to say.

06-03-2016, 11:50 PM	#7
mulekr1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Drives: 15' Limited BRZ Location: New York Posts: 161 Thanks: 23 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	He sounds like the average BMW/Audi/Mercedes fanboy I come across.

06-03-2016, 11:57 PM	#8
KR-S Sporadic Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Drives: 2016 Halo FR-S M/T Location: Earth Posts: 3,145 Thanks: 5,221 Thanked 3,552 Times in 1,746 Posts Mentioned: 50 Post(s) Tagged: 33 Thread(s)	I can't speak for how reliable Benzes are, but I seriously dig the SLS AMG as well as its successor, the AMG GT. Also, your car and your friend's Benz are two completely different cars. On top of that, a new E-Class sedan according to the MB USA website is $52,650, almost twice the amount of a new FR-S or BRZ. For that amount, I would definitely expect the quality to be much higher than that of an FR-S or a BRZ. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. Opinions are subjective, and you and your friend clearly had different wants/needs when buying your cars. Don't let it get to you. Maybe I might want one when I'm older, but as of now, I see no point in buying a luxury car. My opinion, though.

06-04-2016, 12:09 AM	#13
KR-S Sporadic Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Drives: 2016 Halo FR-S M/T Location: Earth Posts: 3,145 Thanks: 5,221 Thanked 3,552 Times in 1,746 Posts Mentioned: 50 Post(s) Tagged: 33 Thread(s)

06-04-2016, 12:10 AM	#14
swarb Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: BRZ Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,052 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,451 Times in 1,271 Posts Mentioned: 79 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	One is not better than another. They are just different. Some would say German cars are over engineered. While Japanese cars are more about efficiency. In the end, if they engineer something and it works out, the others will just copy. Look up his car. The weight and hp. You'll get a good laugh.

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