ARE YOU GONNA BUY IT NO MATTER WHAT

[serchmarc]

i m confused

[bigbcraig]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

What's this about the IS not handling well stock? And from an IS owner?

If I'm not mistaken, the 6-speed IS's have significantly different suspension (spring & damping rates) than the autos. I quickly noticed the difference test-driving them (was inbetween IS's and WRX's, ended up with new WRX instead of blobeye because great deal)

But, do note that his IS is not only an auto, but is also slammed on huge wheels. Last time I was in a guy's E46 M3 that was set up like that, I was sure my WRX (on 205-series tires, nonetheless) would out-handle him.

Originally Posted by Deslock

Assuming it's balanced with communicative steering and a tight shifter, then it depends on the weight:

<1200 kg: YES

1200-1250 kg: PROBABLY

1250-1300 kg: UNLIKELY

>1300 kg: NO

Prepare to be disappointed. I am hugely excited about the prospect of a small, stiff coupe with low weight and low MOI, but with contemporary safety standards, 1300kg (~2600lbs) is the lowest I can imagine the weight would be. Remember that an Exige is ~2100lbs, and this chassis:

(a) will be expected to last at least 200,000 miles, and
(b) will be made of stamped steel, with a little bit of aluminum whereas the loti are expensive enough to use composite and bonded aluminum honeycomb.
(c) will have all of the Toyota safety electronics packed into it to satisfy the sheep





ALSO... Serchmarc, why are you asking? Some sort of project / study or just really heavy curiosity?
but...
NO, unless it's a very good driving car I'll probably buy an S2000, rip out the softtop, and cage/hardtop it. This will be a second car for me, a track whore that is also street legal.

[Deslock]

Originally Posted by bigbcraig

Prepare to be disappointed. I am hugely excited about the prospect of a small, stiff coupe with low weight and low MOI, but with contemporary safety standards, 1300kg (~2600lbs) is the lowest I can imagine the weight would be.

1300 kg = 2866 lbs

1200 kg = 2646 lbs

I'm a realist; no way in the world will it be 2600 lbs.

[serchmarc]

big project!!!
really big.

but it is not to open a TUNING SHOP or a FAST AND THE FURIOUS WANNA BE TORETO RACING MOTORSPORT MATADOR SHOP


is a personal big project
and hopefully buy the car in the future.
i apretiate the comments
more comments please

[Matador]

Originally Posted by serchmarc

big project!!!
really big.

but it is not to open a TUNING SHOP or a FAST AND THE FURIOUS WANNA BE TORETO RACING MOTORSPORT MATADOR SHOP


is a personal big project
and hopefully buy the car in the future.
i apretiate the comments
more comments please

Sera que estas burlando de mi imbecil?

[serchmarc]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Sera que estas burlando de mi imbecil?

naaa como dices!!bromita

translation = naaah what are you talking about willys?

btw where are you from ..mr in front of my laptop

[Matador]

Originally Posted by serchmarc

naaa como dices!!bromita

translation = naaah what are you talking about willys?

btw where are you from ..mr in front of my laptop

The Caribbean.

[bigbcraig]

Originally Posted by Deslock

1300 kg = 2866 lbs

1200 kg = 2646 lbs

I'm a realist; no way in the world will it be 2600 lbs.

I'm an idiot, and failed at google calculator somehow. Carry on...

[philip808]

Originally Posted by bigbcraig

I'm an idiot, and failed at google calculator somehow. Carry on...

somewhere between 2600 to 2800 lbs. would be ideal.
As for buying it no matter..nah. I could buy a nice Elise for less. So the ball is in Yotas court. I have a '00 GTS sitting in the garage that still gives me plenty of driving pleasure.

pj

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by philip808

somewhere between 2600 to 2800 lbs. would be ideal.
As for buying it no matter..nah. I could buy a nice Elise for less. So the ball is in Yotas court. I have a '00 GTS sitting in the garage that still gives me plenty of driving pleasure.

pj

Somewhere between 1600 lbs and 1800 lbs would be ideal . 2600 to 2800 would be a passing grade at best. (New Miata's worst case weight scenario is 2626 lbs with the power hardtop and an automatic transmission.) Toyota should've hit GT5's 2200 lbs with this car. But I'll live with under 2800 lbs.

[philip808]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Somewhere between 1600 lbs and 1800 lbs would be ideal . 2600 to 2800 would be a passing grade at best. (New Miata's worst case weight scenario is 2626 lbs with the power hardtop and an automatic transmission.) Toyota should've hit GT5's 2200 lbs with this car. But I'll live with under 2800 lbs.

It's going to be closer to 2,600 than 2,200. :-)

pj

[ryun84]

This thread is so OT, but it's more useful now than it was originally.

[jmc]

Zero chance of me buying it if it is called a Scion. However, my wife and I would like a new toy around to drive and would love this car if under the Toyota brand. If it ends up as a Scion and not a Toyota, we would take a strong look at the Subaru version.

[1GoZoom]

I won't buy anything until I've driven it and I wait to see if a higher performance version a la the G Sports version arrives stateside. I am excited for it, but I'm no fanboi. I own a very capable Mazda and don't expect to be hurting for a car by launch day. It will have some serious competition. Used M3s, used 5.0 Mustangs, used NismoZ, its older brothers, the RX9, the rumored V8 Gen Coupe, Used STI/Evo.

If it comes out with a 200hp NA motor, no LSD, and becomes a car loved by the ricer community, I'm out. If it comes out with some grunt and tunablity and that sexy body, I'm probably in. Too many unknowns at this point. Plus I won't buy a new car til at least summer of 2013, so plenty of time to speculate and decide.