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Old 04-18-2016, 09:27 PM   #407
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Oh and IF that is the case that it is an e85 tune then that is the mistake of the person creating these tunes and giving each bin the wrong file name. Maybe I should flash the OTS Stage 2 e85 UEL F00C and maybe that would be THE actual Stage 2 91 UEL tune then...hmm...
Open the tunes in romraider add the values in the knock correction max A table to the values in the base timing B table at say 7000 rpm and load 1.3. For petrol the answer should be about 20 to 23 for E85 about 30 to 33 ingnition timing total.
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:31 PM   #408
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Chill out a bit dude no one is saying you lied. Heres the bottom line, the OFH tune is fine from what I can see so that can be left on the car. Just double check the .bin file for the OTS tune in case you ever want to flash to that, simply delete it off the OFT and put the Stage 2 91 octane tune for your cal id back in that space again. Also if you can please use 93 on both the OFH and 91 tune. Wayno can seem a bit brash some times
Earlier I deleted the OTS tune from OFT and then re-downloaded the zip file off of openflash website, extracted it and re uploaded the right tune and flashed that again and these are those data logs from the OTS from today. I was gonna stick with the OFH tune but shiv said to be careful with the ofh tune especially for users in AZ, NV and CA and im in NV so I reflashed the OTS map and noticed all this FLKC readings didnt look good and was better on the OFH so that's why I flashed back again to OFH tune. Very worried here.
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:35 PM   #409
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Earlier I deleted the OTS tune from OFT and then re-downloaded the zip file off of openflash website, extracted it and re uploaded the right tune and flashed that again and these are those data logs from the OTS from today. I was gonna stick with the OFH tune but shiv said to be careful with the ofh tune especially for users in AZ, NV and CA and im in NV so I reflashed the OTS map and noticed all this FLKC readings didnt look good and was better on the OFH so that's why I flashed back again to OFH tune. Very worried here.
I was loving the OFH tune until WOT, for the most part, felt soooo smooth and made the car more alive. haha. Shiv did a great job imo. I'm going to look deeper into it and see if I can keep it maybe. I asked steve99, i'll see.
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:51 PM   #410
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Yes, way too much knock retard (neg FLKC) above 7k RPM. Those who live in CA, AZ and NV (who only get access to 91oct) should be especially careful with these new maps. They are aggressive!
Sorry if I sound like an idiot, but if we're only running the OFH, drop in filter, and catback, should we be logging just to be careful? I'm starting to get paranoid with all these comments lol.
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It's far more complicated than that because F00C in the OFH release (actually B01C?) isn't the same MY calibration as F00C in the OTS release (actually F00C?), because openflash is being lazy and using early MY calibrations on late MY cars now, instead of properly defining new MY calibrations and log addresses (like A01I MY13 calibration on E00I MY15 car).

OTS 0.7g/s 3000rpm
91/93 Timing Target: 28.5 deg
Actual Logged Target: 33 deg (this number is too high)
Knock Compensation: -5 deg
Final Timing: 28 deg

http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/ots-s...2354&mark=2320

OFH 0.7g/s 3000rpm
91/93 Timing Target: 28.5
Actual Logged Target: 24.5 (this number is too low)
Knock Compensation: 0
Final Timing: 24.5

http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/lates...1821&mark=1770

Why am I the only one who actually looks at the data and I'm the bad guy? Fuck you lazy bastards.

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I mean the 91oct uel tune.
I've been running this OTS stg 2 91 uel tune since I first got the OFT back in February of this year. I guess my shit has been knocking all this time. I'm a total noob and I don't understand what all these things the OFT is reporting. I simply wanted to get a UEL header than decided I'd just get the OFT, flash the stage 2 tune and i'm good to go no worries of CEL and I get a properly running car but no now I have to figure out why my car is running probably even worse without a tune.
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Holy crap, are you sure you put the correct tune in your OFT? for the OTS tune?
What is weird is that my OFT is not reporting the MAF voltage and IAM it just appears as "0.00" all the time and might not be reporting other stuff too when I'm flashed with the correct rom according to my cal id F00C "Stg 2 UEL F00C.bin"
But when I flashed to this new OFH "Stage 2OFH F00C.bin" all of a sudden MAF Voltage and IAM readings are functioning fine.

Is it possible that maybe the OFT is just giving me inaccurate readings of the FLKC while on the OTS tune since it's already not reporting the MAFv and IAM and i'm actually running perfectly fine? like a glitch or something idk. I've already messaged Shiv about this but i don't know why he hasn't responded to it but he replied to my other questions. Frustrating. Could I be slowly damaging my engine because of this OTS tune?
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What is weird is that my OFT is not reporting the MAF voltage and IAM it just appears as "0.00" all the time and might not be reporting other stuff too when I'm flashed with the correct rom according to my cal id F00C "Stg 2 UEL F00C.bin"
But when I flashed to this new OFH "Stage 2OFH F00C.bin" all of a sudden MAF Voltage and IAM readings are functioning fine.
That's not weird. Did you not read when I said the OFH rom is actually a B01C, not F00C?
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What is weird is that my OFT is not reporting the MAF voltage and IAM it just appears as "0.00" all the time and might not be reporting other stuff too when I'm flashed with the correct rom according to my cal id F00C "Stg 2 UEL F00C.bin"
But when I flashed to this new OFH "Stage 2OFH F00C.bin" all of a sudden MAF Voltage and IAM readings are functioning fine.

Is it possible that maybe the OFT is just giving me inaccurate readings of the FLKC while on the OTS tune since it's already not reporting the MAFv and IAM and i'm actually running perfectly fine? like a glitch or something idk. I've already messaged Shiv about this but i don't know why he hasn't responded to it but he replied to my other questions. Frustrating. Could I be slowly damaging my engine because of this OTS tune?
When was the last time you've updated the template? Few patches ago there used to be a bug with IAM not displaying correctly and showing as 0 instead of 1, which was fixed with one of the later templates.
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Open the tunes in romraider add the values in the knock correction max A table to the values in the base timing B table at say 7000 rpm and load 1.3. For petrol the answer should be about 20 to 23 for E85 about 30 to 33 ingnition timing total.
I'm really lost i'm so sorry i'm a noob to this. what tune do I open? the OTS Stage 2 91 UEL or the OTS stg 2 e85 uel? I'm only running 91. Damn I think i'm gonna pass out from all this lol
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That's not weird. Did you not read when I said the OFH rom is actually a B01C, not F00C?
You had a question mark in there "It's far more complicated than that because F00C in the OFH release (actually B01C?)"

so I figured you weren't absolutely sure. So excuse me if I don't know if F00C is actually B01C. I'm new to all of this and I'm trying to learn wtf all this means and how to interpret it and how to tune. It's frustrating because first of all how can I even tweak the OTS Stage 2 UEL F00C tune if I don't even have MAF Voltage, IAM readings and lord knows if the rest of the data are even accurate reports. IDK if maybe this is a cue for me to sell my non-OFH uel and get the OFH just so can get some technical support from openflash

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When was the last time you've updated the template? Few patches ago there used to be a bug with IAM not displaying correctly and showing as 0 instead of 1, which was fixed with one of the later templates.
where do I get these templates? when I first got the OFT it didn't have the "G-Meter/Performance Driving Pack" data display/logging channels but I guess it automatically updated itself when I was gonna upload some tunes and now all those other data display/logging channels are appeared in the OFT.
When I'm on the OFH tune all the data stuff are working/reading/reporting fine tho.
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