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Old 04-11-2016, 11:31 AM   #183
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I've been using the current tune for over a year now and according to the local dyno and comparable EcuTek and custom dyno tunes, the numbers are very mild and on the low side and there is a lot of room still (at least 15-20whp). That's why I am waiting to try this "new" tune first and see how much of a bump it is before I commit to getting a custom dyno tune. Perhaps it will give that exact bump (or close to it) that I'm looking for
Have you gone through and scaled the MAF and done some of the other tweaks posted by Steve and Wayne? Doing that stuff alone will make the car noticeably faster and nicer to deal with.
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I've been using the current tune for over a year now and according to the local dyno and comparable EcuTek and custom dyno tunes, the numbers are very mild and on the low side and there is a lot of room still (at least 15-20whp). That's why I am waiting to try this "new" tune first and see how much of a bump it is before I commit to getting a custom dyno tune. Perhaps it will give that exact bump (or close to it) that I'm looking for
An OTS tune will always leave a bit of power on the table compared to a custom tune. Don't get me wrong, I love my OFT but the lack of activity and response is a bit concerning.
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:43 AM   #185
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Have you gone through and scaled the MAF and done some of the other tweaks posted by Steve and Wayne? Doing that stuff alone will make the car noticeably faster and nicer to deal with.
Yep, I have rescaled the MAF to the Greddy MAF scaling and noticed a decent bump over the OTS tune, but there's still plenty of room However, I am not comfortable doing any further tuning and adjusting timings myself and would rather let a more experienced professional tuner take care of the rest.

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An OTS tune will always leave a bit of power on the table compared to a custom tune. Don't get me wrong, I love my OFT but the lack of activity and response is a bit concerning.
Absolutely agree here, I do love my OFT and the options it gives me and live monitoring, just a bit concerned with the recent lack of feedback, as I remember last year there were so many updates and almost instant replies from Shiv, just worried that the support for our platform will fall off
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Fair enough, but the Greddy scaling leaves a bit to be desired, from what I hear. How are your long term trims?
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I've been using the current tune for over a year now and according to the local dyno and comparable EcuTek and custom dyno tunes, the numbers are very mild and on the low side and there is a lot of room still (at least 15-20whp). That's why I am waiting to try this "new" tune first and see how much of a bump it is before I commit to getting a custom dyno tune. Perhaps it will give that exact bump (or close to it) that I'm looking for

To be down that much hp is unusual.


either your getting heaps of knock due your fuel being poor quality
or your car is running very rich due maf scaling (or you have aftermarket intake)


neither of those issues will be fixed by the updates.
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This happened in the BMW N54/N55 world too. I ran a Vishnu Procede on my 335i back in the day (Shiv's piggyback). Then Rombinhood showed some work on the forum on open source flashing which through collaboration with Shiv lead to the OFT being developed. When the twins hit the market Vishnu dropped the BMW crowd and left us with unfinished beta maps. I hope this is not what's happening again. They produce good hardware and their tunes are by and large excellent, but their customer service leaves to be desired. As soon as Cobb cracked the BMW ecu, almost everyone jumped onto that ship.

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To be down that much hp is unusual.


either your getting heaps of knock due your fuel being poor quality
or your car is running very rich due maf scaling (or you have aftermarket intake)


neither of those issues will be fixed by the updates.
could just be a sales pitch from the tuner too haha

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This happened in the BMW N54/N55 world too. I ran a Vishnu Procede on my 335i back in the day (Shiv's piggyback). Then Rombinhood showed some work on the forum on open source flashing which through collaboration with Shiv lead to the OFT being developed. When the twins hit the market Vishnu dropped the BMW crowd and left us with unfinished beta maps. I hope this is not what's happening again. They produce good hardware and their tunes are by and large excellent, but their customer service leaves to be desired. As soon as Cobb cracked the BMW ecu, almost everyone jumped onto that ship.

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damn, now i'm actually worried. Ecutek seems awesome but a whole lot more expensive and a hassle to deal with if you have a custom tune but had to drop one part, you'd have to retune again.

I've never dealt with tuning cars aside from using a piggy back on my BMW 330i and OFT, are we basically getting what we're paying for? By that I mean
we're paying less and getting "less" in a sense.
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The oft guys are working on flex fuel setup for turbo 86/brz using ztans ecu code
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only for turbo?
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Nope. For NA too
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This happened in the BMW N54/N55 world too. I ran a Vishnu Procede on my 335i back in the day (Shiv's piggyback). Then Rombinhood showed some work on the forum on open source flashing which through collaboration with Shiv lead to the OFT being developed. When the twins hit the market Vishnu dropped the BMW crowd and left us with unfinished beta maps. I hope this is not what's happening again. They produce good hardware and their tunes are by and large excellent, but their customer service leaves to be desired. As soon as Cobb cracked the BMW ecu, almost everyone jumped onto that ship.

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The N54 engine has been out of production for 5years. We officially stopped Procede piggyback development for the N54 just over 2 years ago when we launch OpenFlash and focused primarily on ECU flashing tools/map development. We still do plenty of N54 tuning. But only through OFT, not the Procede. The Procede has been repurposed for ESC control for GT86 and MX5 applications. For a number of reasons, piggybacks like the Procede are not ideal solutions for modern ECU tuning.
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The N54 engine has been out of production for 5years. We officially stopped Procede piggyback development for the N54 just over 2 years ago when we launch OpenFlash and focused primarily on ECU flashing tools/map development. We still do plenty of N54 tuning. But only through OFT, not the Procede. The Procede has been repurposed for ESC control for GT86 and MX5 applications. For a number of reasons, piggybacks like the Procede are not ideal solutions for modern ECU tuning.

Thanks for the clarification Shiv! I'm not lamenting the lack of development on the procede, as the natural progression pushed the N54 to flash tunes, but the long wait on release maps. I had both the procede 2.0, procede 2.5, and OFT for my 335. I was very satisfied with both products, the maps were always on the cutting edge of the platform. First with DIC on the procede, then the incredibly aggressive boost ramp on the last OFT maps I ran. Overall I'm a very happy customer of your products. The tunes ruled. Your hardware development is top notch as well. That doesn't change the fact that the available maps for FBO BMW's were in beta for a long time.

I guess what we want to hear is that we're to receive support for the OFT on this platform for the considerable future. My number one choice when my time comes for header+tune package is the OFH package, but I also don't want to get stuck without support a year afterwards.

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This continued trickle down of new free stuff.. why are we so spoiled now that we feel like some slowdown or even discontinuation of said continual free stuff leaves us "stuck without support?"

What is the basis of comparison? I'd really like to shop these other products. I hope they're just as affordable as this most affordable option in the history of the market or whatever.

Cut it out guys. Thanks, Shiv, and everyone else who keeps developing on this platform for the love of it, often free. You know who you are. Ignore us morons. We just want more.
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Thanks for the clarification Shiv! I'm not lamenting the lack of development on the procede, as the natural progression pushed the N54 to flash tunes, but the long wait on release maps. I had both the procede 2.0, procede 2.5, and OFT for my 335. I was very satisfied with both products, the maps were always on the cutting edge of the platform. First with DIC on the procede, then the incredibly aggressive boost ramp on the last OFT maps I ran. Overall I'm a very happy customer of your products. The tunes ruled. Your hardware development is top notch as well. That doesn't change the fact that the available maps for FBO BMW's were in beta for a long time.

I guess what we want to hear is that we're to receive support for the OFT on this platform for the considerable future. My number one choice when my time comes for header+tune package is the OFH package, but I also don't want to get stuck without support a year afterwards.

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In the past 3 months we have released 4 OTS map releases:
1/16/16
v2.073
-Added full tune and XML support for ZA1JF40C Calibration ID.
-Added full tune and XML support for ZA1J500D Calibration ID.
-Added full tune and XML support for ZA1JF00D Calibration ID.

2/7/16
v2.074
-Added full tune and XML support for ZA1JE00I Calibration ID.
-Added full tune and XML support for ZA1JF40D Calibration ID.

3/22/16
v2.075
-Added full tune and XML support for ZA1JA02N Calibration ID.

3/30/16
v2.076
-Added full tune and XML support for ZA1JF30J Calibration ID.

And as newer OEM calibrations hit the streets, we will add support for them as well. Things may come to halt if the engine/platform is discontinued by Subaru/Toyota. But I don't see any signs of that happening any time soon. So forgive me if I fail to see any evidence of us slowing down support for the OFT.
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