Should I trade in my 370z?

[FT_Monk]

OP should keep the Z until a more powerful BRZ/FRS versions are here. Lazy Nissan mounted windshield washer bottle right on the front bumper does not help handling. Some weight reduction in the front will helps.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

Simple. When the car feels planted, the center of gravity is low. When the center of gravity is low, the car feels very close to the ground. Distance between car and ground = ground clearance. Lastly, I said "cruising" not "hovering." Two completely different meanings. Need any other clarifications?

yeah because that still doesnt make any sense. whether you are cruising or hovering, feeling like you are fractions off the ground is the exact oppsite of being planted. also i dont see any relation to feeling planted and feeling low. this car is never going to feel more planted than say an evo and yet its cog is much higer. making the car lower to the ground will lower cog but that doesnt mean that the opposite is true. my miata has more ground clearance and a lower cog. i think feeling close to the ground has more to do with how the the interior is designed than any other technical aspect

[track_warrior]

I sold my c63 and got this as a track car and i have no regrets i can assure you, you will not regret it one bit.

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by fatoni

yeah because that still doesnt make any sense. whether you are cruising or hovering, feeling like you are fractions off the ground is the exact oppsite of being planted. also i dont see any relation to feeling planted and feeling low. this car is never going to feel more planted than say an evo and yet its cog is much higer. making the car lower to the ground will lower cog but that doesnt mean that the opposite is true. my miata has more ground clearance and a lower cog. i think feeling close to the ground has more to do with how the the interior is designed than any other technical aspect

Have you driven one of the twins?

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by switchlanez;[URL="tel:261726"

261726[/URL]]Have you driven one of the twins?

just the frs but you dont need to drive anything to know that feeling planted and feeling like like you are fractions of an inch off the ground are not the same thing.

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by fatoni

just the frs but you dont need to drive anything to know that feeling planted and feeling like like you are fractions of an inch off the ground are not the same thing.

I never said they were the same thing. I said they're related. Say you're riding a golf cart and then a go-kart. Which one would feel more planted and what is the main contributing factor that makes it so?

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by eriktherod

Tbomb, I'm going to assume you don't drive a FR-S/BRZ. This thing GOES even at low RPM, it's hardly like my Si was (that required 4-5k rpm to get moving). I still have the power to gain a good bit of speed in 6th gear at 2-3k rpm in the FR-S. So no, you don't have to "rev the guts out of it" to get it moving.

Honestly, this thing feels like it has the power of V6 at low rpm, it's quite fascinating really. Maybe not Z-style V6, but definitely doesn't feel like you need to spin it up good to gain momentum.

It's funny since your the first person that has ever said this. I also have a hard time believing this unless you are used to a 2.2L V6 from 1989 or something.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by switchlanez;[URL="tel:261950"

261950[/URL]]I never said they were the same thing. I said they're related. Say you're riding a golf cart and then a go-kart. Which one would feel more planted and what is the main contributing factor that makes it so?

not only are they not the same thing, they are the exact opposite. im going to say that a go kart feels more planted. on account of the fact that there isnt suspension, its hundreds of pounds less, designed to be sporting and has way grippier tires.

the miata has a lowe cog. the c4 corvette too. are those cars more planted or floating or whatever youre trying to say?

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by fatoni

im going to say that a go kart feels more planted. on account of the fact that there isnt suspension, its hundreds of pounds less, designed to be sporting and has way grippier tires.

pfft Really. That's not even *one* factor; that's a list that collectively don't compare to the one factor. I see I'm trying to shoot arrows through a brick wall here. I give up on you.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

pfft Really. That's not even *one* factor; that's a list that collectively don't compare to the one factor. I see I'm trying to shoot arrows through a brick wall here. I give up on you.

okay maybe its a communication thing. azz=back, planted=not moving. do we agree? back not moving = understeer. so if you think the frs has more understeer than the 370z. i think youre wrong. if you dont, i dont understand what you are trying to say. the 370z is a much more stable car because it is designed to be driven at much higher speeds. i dont think anything mentioned is beyond reason

[eriktherod]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

It's funny since your the first person that has ever said this. I also have a hard time believing this unless you are used to a 2.2L V6 from 1989 or something.

Oh, hm well.. I'm not used to a sports car V6 but.. compared to the other V6's I've driven I feel like it's similar to the 'lazy' power at lower rpms compared to many 4cyls.

[switchlanez]

I used to drive a G35 and its V6 has plenty of pickup on tap from a standstill. Also used to have a Celica GT-S, Mk2 MR2 (2.2L), and Mk3 MR2. The BRZ feels like it has a bit more punch (its hp/tq figures are higher) at low RPMs than those inline-fours but you still feel a gradual increase in pull as the revs build.

[Juan@aePerformance]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

The fuel starve issue is the only one that hasn't been solved, and it can be avoided if you keep a full tank before tracking.

The oil and brake cooling issues can be fixed for less than 1000 dollars.

I'm not sure but i think we added a secondary tank to our 370 and we hardly ever get fuel starvation issues anymore. Only thing thats sucks is that our fuel gauge is a little off now.

[Liquidsnake]

Originally Posted by fatoni

okay maybe its a communication thing. azz=back, planted=not moving. do we agree? back not moving = understeer. so if you think the frs has more understeer than the 370z. i think youre wrong. if you dont, i dont understand what you are trying to say. the 370z is a much more stable car because it is designed to be driven at much higher speeds. i dont think anything mentioned is beyond reason

I don't know man my Z always scared me on turns. A few people who drove my old car told me they didn't trust it. I kind of agreed with them. Straight line no problem. 0-120 in a straight line put a smile on my face. With the FRS I trust that car with my life on turns. It's just my experience and opinion with both cars. Z was a little sloppy and it didnt feel tight to me.