Tune Longetivity

[continuecrushing]

although tunes dont "go bad" there are newer tweaks and developments that you will only benefit from by flashing to the newest tune...

If you're using the OFS tunes, I would definitely switch to the newer version of the tunes(theres no reason not to)

But I totally understand the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mindset.

[Kayysonie]

Originally Posted by Shutter

although tunes dont "go bad" there are newer tweaks and developments that you will only benefit from by flashing to the newest tune...

If you're using the OFS tunes, I would definitely switch to the newer version of the tunes(theres no reason not to)

But I totally understand the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mindset.

Well, I am on B01C and I dont think there is much difference on the 2.067 to 2.074.

Unless I am wrong. Just havent really looked into it much.

[steve99]

Originally Posted by Kayysonie

Well, I am on B01C and I dont think there is much difference on the 2.067 to 2.074.

Unless I am wrong. Just havent really looked into it much.

correct 2.0xx tunes are all same the minor revisions like 2.067 to 2.074 are just adding additional rom support for new calid, tuning is same

[Kayysonie]

Okay. After 7 months of running the same tune, I decided to just flash the same tune, just minus the launch control.
God, the learning process of it takes a looong time. and I hate how sluggish the car is. Before anyone is going to tell me the wrong stuff I am doing and with my comments below.

NOTE: I am letting the tune learn properly by driving constant and easy. I have only driven the tune 19 miles so I got far ways to go.

There are itty bits that I already hate. The throttle response is just bad and I don't get the same feeling of torque I get from 3k to 4k at 6th gear when over taking someone in the freeway. (Foot is not down to the floor, just gradual increase.)

And the worst of all:

The constant fear and monitoring my Adv Mult, KC Learn, FLKC, STFT, LTFT, and AFR to make sure I am running okay is brutal.

I am flashing again this weekend when I get my UEL installed, I guess its good I am re-experiencing it now than later.

Just a rant. Nothing really bad here.

Any comments or if anyone has a tip, that would be awesome.

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by Kayysonie

Okay. After 7 months of running the same tune, I decided to just flash the same tune, just minus the launch control.
God, the learning process of it takes a looong time. and I hate how sluggish the car is. Before anyone is going to tell me the wrong stuff I am doing and with my comments below.

NOTE: I am letting the tune learn properly by driving constant and easy. I have only driven the tune 19 miles so I got far ways to go.

There are itty bits that I already hate. The throttle response is just bad and I don't get the same feeling of torque I get from 3k to 4k at 6th gear when over taking someone in the freeway. (Foot is not down to the floor, just gradual increase.)

And the worst of all:

The constant fear and monitoring my Adv Mult, KC Learn, FLKC, STFT, LTFT, and AFR to make sure I am running okay is brutal.

I am flashing again this weekend when I get my UEL installed, I guess its good I am re-experiencing it now than later.

Just a rant. Nothing really bad here.

Any comments or if anyone has a tip, that would be awesome.

Just don't worry about it. Seems like a good tip to me. It'll be fine

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by Kayysonie

Okay. After 7 months of running the same tune, I decided to just flash the same tune, just minus the launch control.
God, the learning process of it takes a looong time. and I hate how sluggish the car is. Before anyone is going to tell me the wrong stuff I am doing and with my comments below.

NOTE: I am letting the tune learn properly by driving constant and easy. I have only driven the tune 19 miles so I got far ways to go.

There are itty bits that I already hate. The throttle response is just bad and I don't get the same feeling of torque I get from 3k to 4k at 6th gear when over taking someone in the freeway. (Foot is not down to the floor, just gradual increase.)

And the worst of all:

The constant fear and monitoring my Adv Mult, KC Learn, FLKC, STFT, LTFT, and AFR to make sure I am running okay is brutal.

I am flashing again this weekend when I get my UEL installed, I guess its good I am re-experiencing it now than later.

Just a rant. Nothing really bad here.

Any comments or if anyone has a tip, that would be awesome.

Once the ECU has flashed and has been turned on, leave it in accessory mode for 30 seconds then slowly depress the accelerator 5 times fully to the floor. Then start up the engine and idle for a minute. Its just so the ECU can register 100% pedal movement. That is also why you get dead pedal for a while if you don't.

Also it's well documented that the exhaust cam isn't always active and this can also impact performance and perceived feel.

[86 South Africa]

Am I missing something...

Besides not having launch control - why would you reflash/retune a tuned car.
It's software right, so surely once it's flashed - then you just enjoy the driving and only need a retune or reflash if you want to change something or you install something (like and exhaust) and want to optimise the benefits of the mod.

?

[Kayysonie]

Originally Posted by 86 South Africa

Am I missing something...

Besides not having launch control - why would you reflash/retune a tuned car.
It's software right, so surely once it's flashed - then you just enjoy the driving and only need a retune or reflash if you want to change something or you install something (like and exhaust) and want to optimise the benefits of the mod.

?

The first tune I had had Launch Control.
I got tired of it cause I cannot rev pass 3.8k (where I set it) when I am sitting still.
There was days where I was being a kid and wanted to rev pass it standing still but cannot do it. Also I do not use launch control (will do when I get my UEL)

I relfashed the same tune with the Launch Control Disabled. That is the only way to do it. This is OFT not ECUtek. So since I reflash it, it has to relearn all the parameters.

I ran to work today and it feels a lot better. Not 100% like before but better.

[Ashikabi]

Other than to change something there is no reason to reflash. And ecutek has the same learning period after a flash. That's the ecu relearning pedal position and such. I suppose stand alones probably don't have that but all modern ecus do

[Kayysonie]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

Other than to change something there is no reason to reflash. And ecutek has the same learning period after a flash. That's the ecu relearning pedal position and such. I suppose stand alones probably don't have that but all modern ecus do

ECUTek have a 4 map slot, I believe. So they can have same tune in two Rom Slots with and without Launch Control. and can be switch on the fly.

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by Kayysonie

ECUTek have a 4 map slot, I believe. So they can have same tune in two Rom Slots with and without Launch Control. and can be switch on the fly.

Yes. Not sure what your point is I guess...

[Kayysonie]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

Yes. Not sure what your point is I guess...

Mis-read your message. I thought you imply that ECUTek has to relearn if just switching maps. I agree its learning when its flashed first time.

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by Kayysonie

Mis-read your message. I thought you imply that ECUTek has to relearn if just switching maps. I agree its learning when its flashed first time.

No just flashed. Not switched. Only learns once too, not for each map

[continuecrushing]

Originally Posted by Kayysonie

ECUTek have a 4 map slot, I believe. So they can have same tune in two Rom Slots with and without Launch Control. and can be switch on the fly.

Yeah, the huge benefit Ecutek has is that Launch control works like it should...OFT sets a rev limit regardless of clutch position, and from stop/idle you cannot rev past it. With Ecutek, launch control is enabled ONLY when you are pushing on the clutch. Without the clutch depressed, you can rev to redline if you wish.

I still don't know why the clutch position isn't taken into account with it yet.

Plus, try dialing in rpm for launch control on oft. I literally would make 5 tunes for my car, with various RPM launch points and would have to flash, launch, launch, remember wheel spin/how good the launch was and reflash again to change the rpm. With Ecutek, you enable launch control and tap the cruise control stick up/down to raise/lower launch rpm.